Unity and the PAC
04-17-2014, 04:22 PM
#41
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Position: B737ca
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Originally Posted by jsled
ALPA is not holding your money. United Airlines is holding your money on the request of ALPA. WHY? Because the leadership of ALPA knew there would be greedy rat bastard pilots that would file lawsuits. As an organization, ALPA has to protect itself from it's membership. If one of these lawsuits is awarded, are you gonna cut a check for your share? NOPE. Thus the hold back. So you're gonna give up on defending your career because of the greedy rat bastard litigious pilots? That's not very smart, IMO.
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ALPA would simply charge us an assessment as they have many times in the past, it's my money, I want it, it's been a year. Our union is weak, and ineffective, we are bound by the Railway labor act, and there's no leverage for us. Our PAC is outgunned by PROFESSIONAL lobbyist, and our beloved LUAL ALPA guys only care about their own, the ALPA pin means nothing to me other then legal and aeromedical insurance. Give me my cash..........
04-17-2014, 05:42 PM
#42
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Position: 737 fo
Posts: 908
Originally Posted by Moombabeach
ALPA would simply charge us an assessment as they have many times in the past, it's my money, I want it, it's been a year. Our union is weak, and ineffective, we are bound by the Railway labor act, and there's no leverage for us. Our PAC is outgunned by PROFESSIONAL lobbyist, and our beloved LUAL ALPA guys only care about their own, the ALPA pin means nothing to me other then legal and aeromedical insurance. Give me my cash..........
04-17-2014, 06:00 PM
#43
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Posts: 1,083
Originally Posted by Moombabeach
ALPA would simply charge us an assessment as they have many times in the past, it's my money, I want it, it's been a year. Our union is weak, and ineffective, we are bound by the Railway labor act, and there's no leverage for us. Our PAC is outgunned by PROFESSIONAL lobbyist, and our beloved LUAL ALPA guys only care about their own, the ALPA pin means nothing to me other then legal and aeromedical insurance. Give me my cash..........
04-18-2014, 04:58 AM
#44
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Posts: 194
Originally Posted by Moombabeach
ALPA would simply charge us an assessment as they have many times in the past, it's my money, I want it, it's been a year. Our union is weak, and ineffective, we are bound by the Railway labor act, and there's no leverage for us. Our PAC is outgunned by PROFESSIONAL lobbyist, and our beloved LUAL ALPA guys only care about their own, the ALPA pin means nothing to me other then legal and aeromedical insurance. Give me my cash..........
THEN I found out that LUAL pilots DEMANDED I wear the pin. Well, that just makes me not want to wear it EVEN MORE!!
04-18-2014, 05:12 AM
#45
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Originally Posted by El Gwopo
I threw my pin in the garbage for a different reason. I am a MIGS, I contribute to the PAC, and I have picketed several times. HOWEVER, I grew up in a union family and I explained to these actual union members what happened during our contract negotiations with the 76 seaters. They chuckled and said, "that's not a union".
THEN I found out that LUAL pilots DEMANDED I wear the pin. Well, that just makes me not want to wear it EVEN MORE!!
THEN I found out that LUAL pilots DEMANDED I wear the pin. Well, that just makes me not want to wear it EVEN MORE!!
04-18-2014, 05:55 AM
#46
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Posts: 419
Originally Posted by El Gwopo
I threw my pin in the garbage for a different reason. I am a MIGS, I contribute to the PAC, and I have picketed several times. HOWEVER, I grew up in a union family and I explained to these actual union members what happened during our contract negotiations with the 76 seaters. They chuckled and said, "that's not a union".
THEN I found out that LUAL pilots DEMANDED I wear the pin. Well, that just makes me not want to wear it EVEN MORE!!
THEN I found out that LUAL pilots DEMANDED I wear the pin. Well, that just makes me not want to wear it EVEN MORE!!
You may not like any choices but there is no not choosing.
ALPA
Management
Scabs
Go ahead and keep it up and just know that the overwhelming majority of Old CAL and UAL pilots won't waste much time wondering which of the latter teams you're on.
04-18-2014, 06:44 AM
#47
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Originally Posted by ChrisJT6
You can try and grey this area up all you want but it is so black and white that I'm sure you'll get it someday:
You may not like any choices but there is no not choosing.
ALPA
Management
Scabs
Go ahead and keep it up and just know that the overwhelming majority of Old CAL and UAL pilots won't waste much time wondering which of the latter teams you're on.
You may not like any choices but there is no not choosing.
ALPA
Management
Scabs
Go ahead and keep it up and just know that the overwhelming majority of Old CAL and UAL pilots won't waste much time wondering which of the latter teams you're on.
NOW I'm scared.
04-18-2014, 07:08 AM
#49
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Posts: 419
Originally Posted by El Gwopo
NOW I'm scared.
FYI...it's only the pilot profession that does not use DOH to merge SLs. Ask your "union" family what they think of your SLI proposal...then get back up and preach about unionism.
04-18-2014, 07:13 AM
#50
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Posts: 194
Originally Posted by hopeSales
No need to be SCARED son but while you're standing in the rain by yourself you may not want to drink the water running off you nose ESPECIALLY if it has a strange odor and a yellow tint.
