Not sure who is running it, but they are not doing the displacements like lUAL did in the past 15 years. If they wanted to bump a bunch of pilots, they would keep bumping, in quick succession, until they got the excess mostly out of the base they wanted.

The DEN bumps they did one big bump first, and most of the pilots just bumped to a different seat in DEN, where they now sit. Didn't really solve the personnel problem. If they do IAH the same way, it also won't help.

It doesn't appear that Manpower has a clue.

I am not sure that lCAL's old twice yearly system bid wasn't better than what we are using now (and lUAL used before). With monthly bidding, it might make it easier for MP to change their mind more often. With the system bids, they were locked in for a while. I never lived under this system, so I can't say yeah or nay how it was.

 

Then where are those 300 Airbus crews gonna come from? You might get a few guys to bite on a vacancy bid but 300? We're not getting new deliveries of the 320. So they wanna displace 250-300 737 crews to bring in 250-300 Airbus crews? That seems seems an excessive move to really change so little. One narrow body for another? What do I know.;/

 

Probably spot one with that assessment. Unfortunately, he's doing this at the expense of the all United pilots. The MEC is in a fight to get contract enforcement and we have contract negotiations coming up. We don't need this guy going legacy retro for personal gain.

The MEC didn't create this problem, the company did. The company is well within it's rights to move planes or pilots wherever and whenever it likes. This practice is not new and I'm guessing that's why we have a whole section of the contract devoted to displacements and bumps. The Houston LEC is overestimating it's position when it comes to the company and will likely not receive any support from the other LEC's except CLE, as they wait on the chopping block.

Let's not renegotiate our contract when it suits the company but force them to honor the contract they've already negotiated. That way we'll protect all United pilots.

 

We are halfway there already with 150 A320 crews in Houston.

 

Legacy retro, perfect.

 

Oh I see.
Total 300.
Not 300 vacancies.
My bad

 

I needed that - thx bro - LMAO !!

 

Actually that's a good point.

Manpower treats the pilots like migrant avocado pickers from south of the border. They feel that "seasonally" the pilots go where the work is. However, we all have family's. So there is this natural ebb/flow where the pilots feel like they are being pushed and pulled in different directions. It does affect all seniority spectrums.

If manpower shifts flying, it generally effects those being "forced" to follow it. However, the shift has a trickle up-effect and those further up the ladder either get forced back on to reserve or fly really suckie trips.

A twice a year bid is a good "check and balance" for pilot land. It really puts the power in the pilots hands and takes it away from flight ops and man power planning. It lets you decide where you want to go and gives you a very realistic look at the seniority lay out to help better make your decision. Not really sure how I feel about "BAT's." Can't really understand why we have them, it just gives the company more flexibility to treat you like an orchard worker.

 

down gaging to smaller ac types has the same effect as an auction. Price/seat rises increasing yield. Moving to the 320 has the same effect, pax will pay more for the same seat as supply is reduced. The mix allows shifting ac types as individual markets begin to soften or become more robust.
IOW it allow the company to get price leverage on the micro level.
The cost to attain this leverage has to be weighed against the cost of displacements but that is what accountants do.

 

Lost another 757. Now down to 32 jets (Lual 757s)