Best ALPA Pin Explanation Ever
#201
I am not sure of the details of Comair, but in the case of the 570, they accepted the job with the intent of crossing the picket line. They were not in the pipeline for United jobs before the strike.
ALPA talked them out of actually flying a jet, but they interviewed and accepted the job with that intent.
I guess, for them, I would have to change my analogy.
29 years ago they started to sleep with their best friends wife. In the middle of the act, a mutual friend caught them, and talked him into stopping before "finishing".
Does that mean he didn't sleep with his best friends' wife?
ALPA talked them out of actually flying a jet, but they interviewed and accepted the job with that intent.
I guess, for them, I would have to change my analogy.
29 years ago they started to sleep with their best friends wife. In the middle of the act, a mutual friend caught them, and talked him into stopping before "finishing".
Does that mean he didn't sleep with his best friends' wife?
That being said, there are some 570 that think they are heroes. I wouldn't call going on strike heroic. It is what is expected. They certainly do not deserve any implication of being scab like.
#202
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#203
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Agreed.
You guys are doing a pretty good job of making all United (LUAL & LCAL) pilots look like raging a$$ holes. Give it up. You're not going to change someone's opinions on a forum!
Please STOP ... You're making us all look pathetic.
You guys are doing a pretty good job of making all United (LUAL & LCAL) pilots look like raging a$$ holes. Give it up. You're not going to change someone's opinions on a forum!
Please STOP ... You're making us all look pathetic.
#204
I wear the pin, and the unity demonstration is fine. We need to be in solidarity. I formerly served on an MEC and helped run strike centers twice, and was furloughed in 2008.
However, it is also true that management could not give a rat's A** about our demonstrations, whether it is wearing pins, not wearing hats, stickers, informational picketing, or whatever. They know the score, and how the RLA and bankruptcy rules skew the game in their favor. I guarantee you they laugh at us in the Wings club in NYC and their country clubs and boardrooms at our bickering over hats and pins. What impotency.....
Our real weakness, in my opinion, is our own senior alpa "leadership". Furloughed? They did not furlough you, but they (the alpa national president) signed off on the 60 percent outsourcing of our domestic flying, the ultimate cause of our furloughs. And, the natl. chair actually believes that RJ outsourcing of your career jobs is a good thing. Interesting that now that they are coming after his wide-body mainline flying, he wails about outsourcing!. Laughable...Counting on them drawing or holding a line or demanding real improvements? Nope, their priority is obviously protecting dues income and no disruptions, and no threats to their holy major contingency fund.
"live to fight another day" and "take one for the team" are alpa's mantras....
It is always "what is good for alpa national here?" NOT what is best for this pilot group or our whole industry and profession.
Regardless, I'm with my ual leadership and our membership. We are all we've got.
However, it is also true that management could not give a rat's A** about our demonstrations, whether it is wearing pins, not wearing hats, stickers, informational picketing, or whatever. They know the score, and how the RLA and bankruptcy rules skew the game in their favor. I guarantee you they laugh at us in the Wings club in NYC and their country clubs and boardrooms at our bickering over hats and pins. What impotency.....
Our real weakness, in my opinion, is our own senior alpa "leadership". Furloughed? They did not furlough you, but they (the alpa national president) signed off on the 60 percent outsourcing of our domestic flying, the ultimate cause of our furloughs. And, the natl. chair actually believes that RJ outsourcing of your career jobs is a good thing. Interesting that now that they are coming after his wide-body mainline flying, he wails about outsourcing!. Laughable...Counting on them drawing or holding a line or demanding real improvements? Nope, their priority is obviously protecting dues income and no disruptions, and no threats to their holy major contingency fund.
"live to fight another day" and "take one for the team" are alpa's mantras....
It is always "what is good for alpa national here?" NOT what is best for this pilot group or our whole industry and profession.
Regardless, I'm with my ual leadership and our membership. We are all we've got.
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