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02-03-2015, 05:35 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer
Your original question for DEN: the bottom 737 guy who is not on a leave appears to be a Feb 2008 hire (CAL side). UAL equivalent would be 2000-2001.
There is a active new-hire below that, but I think he is being bumped to EWR...chart was hard to interpret.
There is a active new-hire below that, but I think he is being bumped to EWR...chart was hard to interpret.
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02-03-2015, 09:24 AM
#23
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Position: 787
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DEN Scenario:
Get hired get the 320/737 and sit on it for a year. Upgrade to the 756 sit there for 2 years. Upgrade to the 777 sit there until your seat lock is up (2 more years). Take the 50K pay cut to go back to 320/737 in DEN and sit bottom reserve for 2 years. get your first line in DEN and then upgrade to CA in EWR the very next month in EWR. Sit as narrow body CA for 10 years upgrade to the 756 as CA (or equivalent). sit there for another 10 years and make the decision to upgrade to 777 CA or DEN 737 CA and give up 100K a year. If you pick DEN your golden if you pick the 777 you will retire spending a grand total of 30 years at UA with 2 of them based at DEN and all of them as a reserve FO.
I'm probably going to move........
Get hired get the 320/737 and sit on it for a year. Upgrade to the 756 sit there for 2 years. Upgrade to the 777 sit there until your seat lock is up (2 more years). Take the 50K pay cut to go back to 320/737 in DEN and sit bottom reserve for 2 years. get your first line in DEN and then upgrade to CA in EWR the very next month in EWR. Sit as narrow body CA for 10 years upgrade to the 756 as CA (or equivalent). sit there for another 10 years and make the decision to upgrade to 777 CA or DEN 737 CA and give up 100K a year. If you pick DEN your golden if you pick the 777 you will retire spending a grand total of 30 years at UA with 2 of them based at DEN and all of them as a reserve FO.
I'm probably going to move........
05-08-2016, 07:20 AM
#24
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
DEN Scenario:
Get hired get the 320/737 and sit on it for a year. Upgrade to the 756 sit there for 2 years. Upgrade to the 777 sit there until your seat lock is up (2 more years). Take the 50K pay cut to go back to 320/737 in DEN and sit bottom reserve for 2 years. get your first line in DEN and then upgrade to CA in EWR the very next month in EWR. Sit as narrow body CA for 10 years upgrade to the 756 as CA (or equivalent). sit there for another 10 years and make the decision to upgrade to 777 CA or DEN 737 CA and give up 100K a year. If you pick DEN your golden if you pick the 777 you will retire spending a grand total of 30 years at UA with 2 of them based at DEN and all of them as a reserve FO.
I'm probably going to move........
Get hired get the 320/737 and sit on it for a year. Upgrade to the 756 sit there for 2 years. Upgrade to the 777 sit there until your seat lock is up (2 more years). Take the 50K pay cut to go back to 320/737 in DEN and sit bottom reserve for 2 years. get your first line in DEN and then upgrade to CA in EWR the very next month in EWR. Sit as narrow body CA for 10 years upgrade to the 756 as CA (or equivalent). sit there for another 10 years and make the decision to upgrade to 777 CA or DEN 737 CA and give up 100K a year. If you pick DEN your golden if you pick the 777 you will retire spending a grand total of 30 years at UA with 2 of them based at DEN and all of them as a reserve FO.
I'm probably going to move........
Found this thread doing a search for how long for a Newhire to hold DEN FO - it's been over a year since the last post here. Is the information still pretty accurate? I expect it would be, but thought it worth asking.
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Last edited by sulkair; 05-08-2016 at 07:31 AM.
05-08-2016, 07:53 AM
#25
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Joined APC: Nov 2010
Position: 737 Cap
Posts: 451
Originally Posted by sulkair
Great detail in this scenario. Does it factor retirements?
Found this thread doing a search for how long for a Newhire to hold DEN FO - it's been over a year since the last post here. Is the information still pretty accurate? I expect it would be, but thought it worth asking.
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Found this thread doing a search for how long for a Newhire to hold DEN FO - it's been over a year since the last post here. Is the information still pretty accurate? I expect it would be, but thought it worth asking.
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Fwiw, trying to be based in den can feel like career suicide. You will give up roughly 50k a year minimum compared to being based elsewhere... Whether because of limited seat movement, delayed upgrade or extended reserve. Arguable whether it is worth it for me. The divorce would cost more, so for now (and probably for most of my career) I commute to other bases... This time not by choice, but others absolutely by choice. Tough call.
05-08-2016, 09:15 AM
#26
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Originally Posted by Scott Stoops
Mostly. There was a small backfill bid recently for f/o's to match cap slots. Until Ual decides to commit to den instead of running from sw this probably isn't going to improve. That said, the training center move and rj reductions should help. We are going to have 30k + training events a year in den shortly, so there has to be service to get guys back and forth if nothing else.
Fwiw, trying to be based in den can feel like career suicide. You will give up roughly 50k a year minimum compared to being based elsewhere... Whether because of limited seat movement, delayed upgrade or extended reserve. Arguable whether it is worth it for me. The divorce would cost more, so for now (and probably for most of my career) I commute to other bases... This time not by choice, but others absolutely by choice. Tough call.
Fwiw, trying to be based in den can feel like career suicide. You will give up roughly 50k a year minimum compared to being based elsewhere... Whether because of limited seat movement, delayed upgrade or extended reserve. Arguable whether it is worth it for me. The divorce would cost more, so for now (and probably for most of my career) I commute to other bases... This time not by choice, but others absolutely by choice. Tough call.
05-08-2016, 09:41 AM
#27
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 294
Originally Posted by Zoomie
IAH 737 Shrinking.
IAH A320 Growing. If you are junior, you will want to be on the Airbus or you won't move up for some time since IAH 737 will probably continue to shrink by attrition.
IAH A320 Growing. If you are junior, you will want to be on the Airbus or you won't move up for some time since IAH 737 will probably continue to shrink by attrition.
05-16-2016, 07:31 AM
#29
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Joined APC: Oct 2014
Position: 787
Posts: 776
Originally Posted by KODI3
What is current projection for Newhire IAD basing? A/C assignment?
Anyone commuting TPA to IAD (or EWR)?
Anyone commuting TPA to IAD (or EWR)?
05-16-2016, 07:41 AM
#30
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 501
Originally Posted by svergin
Not as a new hire, right now. The last vacancy bid didn't have any unfilled openings in IAD. But the junior pilots there are less than 6 months seniority, so it's likely in the fall when bids open up big time that there will be openings for new guys everywhere, maybe even Denver.
Too funny. No one really knows in this industry. We all have our guesses. But, no one really knows.
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