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#31
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I'll be looking for the same move - I start indoc in August (hopefully), but plan to continue to reside in Northern VA. Hoping for EWR at first vs the west coast but am hoping to move as quick as able down to IAD. I'm told it would be a wash between the A320 and 737 as to which would either help get a hold in EWR or get to IAD quickest. Does that sound right?
#32
FWIW, the latest update from manpower guesstimating is projecting lots of base growth and/or backfills pretty much everywhere (except the 747-400) as expected as a result of significant mainline growth combined with pilot retirements. All those pilots moving up to a CA seat or widebody FO have to come from someplace and that will drive "unadvertised vacancies" aka backfills all over the place.
The bottom line: baring catastrophe it will be a great time for pilots at the bottom of the list to get desired aircraft and/or bases much quicker than those hired even just a few years ago.
Many of us have seen this show before and we know that this industry operates in cycles but folks should enjoy the ride while it lasts. (Spoiler: it won't.)
The bottom line: baring catastrophe it will be a great time for pilots at the bottom of the list to get desired aircraft and/or bases much quicker than those hired even just a few years ago.
Many of us have seen this show before and we know that this industry operates in cycles but folks should enjoy the ride while it lasts. (Spoiler: it won't.)
#33
Not really, here's a quote from last week's Crew Resources Update: "320 flying remains concentrated in SFO, DEN, ORD, and IAH with 80 percent of our departures out of those hubs." My understanding of this trend is that as the Bus ages the CO wants to concentrate Bus flying near hubs with maintenance support at close at hand. Also "the share of (Bus) departures out of the EWR, DCA, and LAX bases is greater at the co-terminals than it is out of the hub itself. Please plan accordingly if you bid for any of these three bases." Sounds to me like you should probably bid the Guppy.
#34
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Not really, here's a quote from last week's Crew Resources Update: "320 flying remains concentrated in SFO, DEN, ORD, and IAH with 80 percent of our departures out of those hubs." My understanding of this trend is that as the Bus ages the CO wants to concentrate Bus flying near hubs with maintenance support at close at hand. Also "the share of (Bus) departures out of the EWR, DCA, and LAX bases is greater at the co-terminals than it is out of the hub itself. Please plan accordingly if you bid for any of these three bases." Sounds to me like you should probably bid the Guppy.
For DC, the block hours so far have stayed to same, regardless of the trip departure mix. June saw a spike in DCA flying, at the expense of BWI. IAD stayed close to the norm.
So while less hub (IAD) flying going forward, it doesn't mean the base shrinks.
DC
#35
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If you are initially awarded 737 and bid for and hold 7576 while in training will you go all the way through 737 ioe for the type rating or will they stop you at the end of Sims? You have to complete ioe for the type rating I believe
#36
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Not really, here's a quote from last week's Crew Resources Update: "320 flying remains concentrated in SFO, DEN, ORD, and IAH with 80 percent of our departures out of those hubs." My understanding of this trend is that as the Bus ages the CO wants to concentrate Bus flying near hubs with maintenance support at close at hand. Also "the share of (Bus) departures out of the EWR, DCA, and LAX bases is greater at the co-terminals than it is out of the hub itself. Please plan accordingly if you bid for any of these three bases." Sounds to me like you should probably bid the Guppy.
#37
So if you want a EWR, IAD, or LAX base, and don't want to be on reserve for an extended period, you will do better on the 737. If you don't care about being on reserve for a while, then you're back to the nice office vs nice layover decision.
#38
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You would finish training on the Guppy. You get the type after the checkride, not after OE.
#39
You do not need IOE for the type. However, when they send you to class depends on their schedule. I think they are still having guys finish their initial equipment training through the checkride/LOFT, before going back to training on the newly awarded equipment. Depending on the start date of your new training award, you may finish IOE and even fly the line for a bit.
#40
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Most A320 positions will be concentrated in just four of the seven hubs, SFO, DEN, ORD and IAH. While EWR, IAD, and LAX have 320s, they are smaller and will remain so. So much smaller that a majority of 320 flights into or out of EWR, IAD, and LAX are operated by 320 pilots based at other hubs. 737s are more evenly distributed.
So if you want a EWR, IAD, or LAX base, and don't want to be on reserve for an extended period, you will do better on the 737. If you don't care about being on reserve for a while, then you're back to the nice office vs nice layover decision.
So if you want a EWR, IAD, or LAX base, and don't want to be on reserve for an extended period, you will do better on the 737. If you don't care about being on reserve for a while, then you're back to the nice office vs nice layover decision.
Okay, makes a lot more sense now. Thanks for that - definitely leaning towards 737.
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