Dragon7

Hilltopper89,

Thanks for the information. Interesting info, and if protecting the 1000 show on day 1 was the issue then i am glad they didn't trade the one protection in the contract for reserves that is enforced. i am sure you are shocked to know that i will still wait to see the language in a TA if we get to vote on it.

Flytolive

In life how often do we have 'complete' information about the decisions we make? In this case we will eventually have access to any TA, but we will not have a complete picture of a myriad of issues related to this deal. Most pilots won't even read the whole TA. I wish we lived in the simple black and white world you seem to yearn for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OnpkDWbeJs

Probe

KRU;
you are normally of voice of reason. But you also confess to commuting to reserve.

Reserve at every airline is to cover IRRops/sick calls, etc. It is not to sit at home and get 24 hour call out. As a voice of reason, you have not claimed it should be.

I am 50% BES. I bid reserve half the time. I fly with reserves half the time. The last flying partner I had that beaached about our reserve system was 8 or 9 years ago. Mostly, we share with each other how many SC's we got last month.

SC abuse? Once again, for those not silly enough to commute to reserve VOLUNTARILY (please see the previous), bring on all the SC's they want. FSB should be paid a bit more, but we voted on the the current contract. Maybe try to fix it in the next.

I normally get 81 to 85 hours on reserve, and have not flown 30 hours on reserve in 2 years. SC abuse? I love it, and it is waste of company resources. But, not complaining here.

If you CHOSE to commute to reserve, sorry, TBSS.

Flytolive

We all get the same contract so your cronyism assertion is vacuous.

Flytolive

Because the leaked details of an agreement is just a preview of what will be OUR approved or disapproved TA.

Your shock that there is gambling in Casablanca is indicative of someone who has never been off the sidelines.

Flytolive

How can I attack YOU? I don't know you. I just find your naivety and righteous indignation as expressed on this forum unbelievable.

krudawg

>>Reserve at every airline is to cover IRRops/sick calls, etc. It is not to sit at home and get 24 hour call out. As a voice of reason, you have not claimed it should be.<<< Yes, I thought that's what I said: >"I also would like to suggest that the company pays us a lot of money to be available and reserves are just that - reserves. Unforeseen circumstances to keep the operation running smoothly. That's how the Company makes money and thats how we get profit sharing".<
What I was suggesting in my post is that SC's are the Achilles Heal of commuting to reserve and that it should be monitored closely to insure it is not abused. I'm not whinning about being on reserve - I did it to myself.

El Guapo

78 hours of pay this month with 0 hours flying. Strategic use of short calls is the game. Commuting to reserve is a choice unless you are a new hire.

Flytolive

You mean the one on which people use their real names? Yep.

Sniper66

Mostly name calling and the same dogs barking but good info though.