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30west 12-03-2015 07:55 PM
Originally Posted by jsled (Post 2021142)
Couple things.

Is pass travel contractual?

Unless the bylaws have been changed, new hires on probation cannot vote.
Pass travel is company benefit , they control it. Pass travel is not in the UPA other than travel to/from training.

New hires less than 1 year won't be able to vote as you point out.

baseball 12-04-2015 04:41 AM
Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 2020932)
Rumor (only) that the AIP restores pay longevity for UAL furlugheees to match the pay longevity that previously furloughed CAL pilots already received per the main body of the UPA. (And thus the consternation about LOA25.)

Will the CAL pilots get their seniority restored?

UALinIAH 12-04-2015 04:56 AM
Originally Posted by baseball (Post 2021383)
Will the CAL pilots get their seniority restored?
Are you talking about the seniority for vacation and travel? AFAIK they have the seniority that was in place from the CAL contract. Nothing to do with LOA 25, but I agree EVERYONE should be treated the same with regards to what seniority date is used for everything.

NFLUALNFL 12-04-2015 05:48 AM
Originally Posted by baseball (Post 2021383)
Will the CAL pilots get their seniority restored?
Date of Hire ???? :eek:

baseball 12-05-2015 08:15 PM
I guess if one group gets a carve out every group out there gets a carve out.

Are we still talking about 1978 hires? You mean when the STU's were wearing go-go boots and the gate agents had pimp hats and we were all wearing bellbottoms at the layover?


The Joint Collective Bargaining agreement was suppose to take care of all that stuff. That was when we had our most leverage.

Outsider 12-05-2015 08:22 PM
How about the retirees getting their seniority restored?
Now, that's what I'm talkin about.

SpecialTracking 12-06-2015 03:18 AM
Originally Posted by Outsider (Post 2022367)
How about the retirees getting their seniority restored?
Now, that's what I'm talkin about.
Get a family bible.

SpecialTracking 12-06-2015 03:20 AM
Originally Posted by baseball (Post 2022363)
I guess if one group gets a carve out every group out there gets a carve out.

Are we still talking about 1978 hires? You mean when the STU's were wearing go-go boots and the gate agents had pimp hats and we were all wearing bellbottoms at the layover?


The Joint Collective Bargaining agreement was suppose to take care of all that stuff. That was when we had our most leverage.

How did we have leverage with the jcba?

jdt30 12-06-2015 04:15 AM
Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 2022415)
Get a family bible.
Nice one.:)

Outsider 12-06-2015 08:02 AM
While I don't understand your response, I'm fairly certain its derogatory.
Is there some specific reason you (and others it appears) would look down upon those who have gone before you.
I'm pretty sure you are disrespecting your own future here.
Does that make sense?
ps I am in fact old and retired in case you thought I was being sarcastic, I wasn't.


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