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Old 05-08-2016 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by baseball
That was wise. You must either be a rep or on the NC. I hear the company had a list of 35 "fixes" to reserve that they wanted to extract from us. Better to let that alone for now.
Exactly. AA thinks we should've done otherwise. I invite AA to publish what the correct pay raise percentage was.

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You should get the rate right and yes you gave. You continue to operate under a contract that was born under mistrust and threat. You voted twice for this contract and have little justification to complain about it. PAR/Altimeter hedge funds will still be pulling the strings.
I'm not complaining at all. When compared to DALs failed TA, and AAs current contract, we're doing just fine. Fedex has better pay rates but their reserve rules suck.
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Old 05-08-2016 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by baseball
Short call is OK, but there are some problems.

1. SC sux if traffic sux.
2. SC sux if you have something else to do
3. SC sux if you don't do 3 or more, cuz u get no pay if you no work
4. SC sux if your base is chronically understaffed
1. Traffic lightens up on LC?
2. You don't do anything on LC?
3. ?????????
4. LC also sucks if your base is understaffed. Actually, ANY AND ALL reserve rules suck if your base is understaffed. Being understaffed sucks for everyone unless you are a line holder and ***** yourself out to the sr manning gods.
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Old 05-09-2016 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Probe
1. Traffic lightens up on LC?
2. You don't do anything on LC?
3. ?????????
4. LC also sucks if your base is understaffed. Actually, ANY AND ALL reserve rules suck if your base is understaffed. Being understaffed sucks for everyone unless you are a line holder and ***** yourself out to the sr manning gods.
Yeah, all reserve sux, all the time. I was just trying to be positive.

The biggest problem with reserve is you just can't plan on anything. You have no ability to be proactive with your family. Your days off aren't even your days off. The six day block of HDO's is all you can count on.

I vote for an increase in MPG for each day of reserve. Say 5 hours, because that would marry up to what our min per day is if we actually do fly.
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Old 05-09-2016 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by baseball



The biggest problem with reserve is you just can't plan on anything. You have no ability to be proactive with your family. Your days off aren't even your days off. The six day block of HDO's is all you can count on.




That's if you're a global reserve. Domestic reserve is better. You have only one FDO. The rest are HDOs. And let me know if I'm wrong but aren't there limits to what scheduling can do with global reserves? They can't roll your FDOs to assign you short call, field standby, or a domestic pairing. Is that right? They have to assign you a global pairing i.e. Lima and south, Shannon and east and of course any pacific. HI is excluded. That being said, and if it's not entirely true, aren't the global fleets better staffed than the 320 & 737. Narrow bodies are always short. Finding it hard to believe that the 756, 777, and 787 are as short staffed as the NBs. I dunno. Someone tell me I'm wrong and insult me. Oh and call me "son". I like that.
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Old 05-09-2016 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Probe
I will be bidding reserve again in February, and I am about 50% in BES. I don't care what time they build short calls. I hope I get "abused" with a lot with SC's. Every other pilot I talk to on reserve says the same thing.

The pilots complaining about reserve are in the very very low minority. Our reserve system is fine. I would not give 1 dollar in pay rates to change it.

That from December 30, 2015.

And now:
- OM is not going to change it.
- baseball doesn't want to pay to change it but blames ALPA.
- Grumble is still arguing about his preceived pay raise to cover it.
- Jsled is still hosting weener parties in his 3 ring pool and doesn't care about changing it.
- Line holders are sitting on the sidelines saying "poor things".

The only guys that will eventually care enough about changing it are the guys stuck on reserve after all the hiring stops but by then the guys discussed above will say "let them pay their dues, like I did!".
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Old 05-09-2016 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by baseball
That was wise. You must either be a rep or on the NC. I hear the company had a list of 35 "fixes" to reserve that they wanted to extract from us. Better to let that alone for now.
Nope. Just a junior nobody on domestic reserve who moved to base. And who has negotiated a bit in a previous life.

Watching the new MEC and NC to see how they handle the FSB/SC issue. This could be cleaned up in an LOA about metrics and transparency for conversions. But despite my concern about FSB/SC, compared to my peers at SWA, Fedex, AA, and DAL, our reserve is not as bad as theirs when you consider 10am first day show, APU, SC pick up, and VDO.
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Old 05-09-2016 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by AllenAllert
That from December 30, 2015.

And now:
- OM is not going to change it.
- baseball doesn't want to pay to change it but blames ALPA.
- Grumble is still arguing about his preceived pay raise to cover it.
- Jsled is still hosting weener parties in his 3 ring pool and doesn't care about changing it.
- Line holders are sitting on the sidelines saying "poor things".

The only guys that will eventually care enough about changing it are the guys stuck on reserve after all the hiring stops but by then the guys discussed above will say "let them pay their dues, like I did!".
Dude...I said you're invited. I'll even buy the Labatts! The weather is great and RSV is Phat. And with the hockey playoffs going on...
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Old 05-09-2016 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by baseball

Further, I have lots of sick time. The only thing I imply by voting yes is I bet I won't run out of sick time while stuck on reserve.
No, you also imply that you have no empathy for your fellow pilots who will be stuck on reserve when you hold a line.

20% of the company will always be on reserve. Some few by positive choice, some will make the choice balancing obligations, some through no choice. But one out of five of us will always have to be on reserve.

Originally Posted by baseball
That being said, I am not willing to trade anything of material "REAL" value to fix reserve issues. Just call in sick. You are only one phone call away from a livable schedule. You are only two phone calls away from a super-duper schedule.
And a half-winger is two sick calls away from looking back on what would have been a great career.


Looking out for your own self interest is fine. Looking out for your own self interest to the detriment of others makes you a sociopath. Or a Smisek.
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Old 05-09-2016 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by robthree
No, you also imply that you have no empathy for your fellow pilots who will be stuck on reserve when you hold a line.

20% of the company will always be on reserve. Some few by positive choice, some will make the choice balancing obligations, some through no choice. But one out of five of us will always have to be on reserve.



And a half-winger is two sick calls away from looking back on what would have been a great career.


Looking out for your own self interest is fine. Looking out for your own self interest to the detriment of others makes you a sociopath. Or a Smisek.
And you are a PC buffoon. Label others and attack. Sick list use by others is not your concern, deebag.
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Old 05-09-2016 | 12:27 PM
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Add pay for flying into days off (RDO, FDO, HDOs)... and 5 hours credit time for sitting FSB.
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