787 orders converted to 737, 777
03-09-2016 | 01:32 PM
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Someone wrote:
"True, but many pilots would say (correctly) it's not their job."
You know what, when I step onto the airplane it belongs to me (Captain) and if I want the APU started and the air unhooked then it will get done. I also authorize my F/O to do the same when I'm not there.
So it is my Job to provide the best product I can for my passengers. I really could care less about a little extra fuel burn when it's smoking hot in the cabin. I've even started and engine early when the APU was inop and there was no ground air available.
This is what we do.
In case anyone was wondering we are responsible for our actions and if you do something unsafe, well that was dumb.
"True, but many pilots would say (correctly) it's not their job."
You know what, when I step onto the airplane it belongs to me (Captain) and if I want the APU started and the air unhooked then it will get done. I also authorize my F/O to do the same when I'm not there.
So it is my Job to provide the best product I can for my passengers. I really could care less about a little extra fuel burn when it's smoking hot in the cabin. I've even started and engine early when the APU was inop and there was no ground air available.
This is what we do.
In case anyone was wondering we are responsible for our actions and if you do something unsafe, well that was dumb.
03-09-2016 | 07:58 PM
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Having flown them both, there is no doubt that the ground air is MUCH more effective on the A320 for some reason.
That being said, the cockpit is usually cooler than the cabin, so it's hard to tell if it's warm in the back. Some stations have excellent ground air, but most do not. So it's part of my "summer brief" to the FA's to let me know if it is warm in the back. But it is a challenge for sure on the NG. What ain't on that airplane?? The reason the FO does EVERYTHING in that airplane is because it takes me so long to wedge my fat arse into the seat that we are cleared to push before I can get my iPad out
That being said, the cockpit is usually cooler than the cabin, so it's hard to tell if it's warm in the back. Some stations have excellent ground air, but most do not. So it's part of my "summer brief" to the FA's to let me know if it is warm in the back. But it is a challenge for sure on the NG. What ain't on that airplane?? The reason the FO does EVERYTHING in that airplane is because it takes me so long to wedge my fat arse into the seat that we are cleared to push before I can get my iPad out
03-09-2016 | 09:50 PM
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You misunderstood what I said. The Airbus is much more effective at cooling than the guppy on the ground with PC air attached. The Airbus cools well with PC air at almost every station. The Guppy is almost always hot using PC. Both are good on the ground with the APU running
03-09-2016 | 10:53 PM
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Airbus incident on the ground years ago where heat in the cockpit played a role in the distraction. There were other factors that led up to this but it is something to consider when accepting a plane without an apu in the dead of summer.
03-10-2016 | 03:56 AM
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Just curious, when I flew the FLUF here at Delta, we had a procedure to go to flaps 1 while at the gate on hot days to allow heat dissipation from the wing root area to aid cooling while using the APU. Do you guys do something similar?
03-10-2016 | 05:28 PM
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You misunderstood what I said. The Airbus is much more effective at cooling than the guppy on the ground with PC air attached. The Airbus cools well with PC air at almost every station. The Guppy is almost always hot using PC. Both are good on the ground with the APU running
03-10-2016 | 07:26 PM
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And I disagree. I found that most stations had adequate ground air on the Bus. On the Guppy, ground air is inadequate at almost every station.
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