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Originally Posted by HuggyU2
(Post 2147929)
Haha... OK, SpTr.
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Originally Posted by gettinbumped
(Post 2147910)
Man, not me. I really appreciate a little positivity from the new folks I'm flying with. Nice to have some fresh air after breathing a room full of farts for the last 16 or so years. The guys/gals who are happy to be at United, cheerful about their job, eager to learn, and pleasant to talk to are the ones I most enjoy sharing an ID with. I certainly expect them to learn and defend our contract, but we as a collective company are better with people that want to do a good job.
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Originally Posted by Scott Stoops
(Post 2146713)
So what should our hiring process look like? Take, say...six check airman and put them in six rooms. Call in 36 applicants for an interview. Give each check airman six candidates to interview in the morning. Give each check airman 30 minutes with the applicant. Then, each check airman takes his/her six applicants to lunch. After lunch, the check airman invites as many of the six back to a sim ride in the afternoon. Those that get a thumbs up by 5PM are hired. I don't believe in accruing points for being a member of a club/association, and I certainly don't think 20 job fair appearances is worth anything. Have a good interview with a trusted check airman, have a good lunch, then take a hop in a sim. No HR required/needed. We don't have HR in the room when we do our simulator briefs, pre-departure briefs, sim checks, long haul trips, and they certainly aren't invited to the bar for debrief after a long day, so why exactly do we need/value their input? The only time HR is around is when something's wrong. Someone getting disciplined... I think HR should handle benefits and that's about it. But, if there is a lesbian pilots association is it possible to join that as an honorary member or as a supporter? |
Speak softly, and carry a sturdy pair of rose colored glasses.
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Baseball,
I agree they should continue to improve the hiring process. But it may be a function of simply being too manpower intensive to do it, and methods like the one you propose might require too many man-hours of line Captains. My friend is a new hire and quoted 1000 pilots a year from 2017-2019. That is a manpower intensive hiring process. I'd like to know how many are interviewed each year so I could figure the success rate. Even with a 75% hire rate, that's 1400 interviews to accomplish each year to get ~1000 pilots. |
Originally Posted by HuggyU2
(Post 2148014)
Baseball,
I agree they should continue to improve the hiring process. But it may be a function of simply being too manpower intensive to do it, and methods like the one you propose might require too many man-hours of line Captains. My friend is a new hire and quoted 1000 pilots a year from 2017-2019. That is a manpower intensive hiring process. I'd like to know how many are interviewed each year so I could figure the success rate. Even with a 75% hire rate, that's 1400 interviews to accomplish each year to get ~1000 pilots. |
Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
(Post 2147918)
I fully disagree with your sentiment. Those room full off farts you speak of got me through the last 16 or so years. I will forever be indebted to them.
The people you choose to denigrate want to do a good job but were smothered by circumstances beyond their control. I consider the fact that we did not endure a hull loss during these times as a testament to the skill and professionalism of the aviators you choose to disparage. I was merely referring to the fact that unlike buscappy, I would rather have a new hire who is genuinely happy to be here than one who isn't. I'm bummed that folks would ever think that I have anything but the utmost respect for EVERY pilot who safely endured the last 16 years at this airline, carrying the water while our management continuously crapped on us, our families, and our customers. I guess I need to consider my tone in future posts if that's the vibe I'm putting off. |
Originally Posted by AllenAllert
(Post 2147954)
We all kinda thought you liked that smell, but as a side note - maybe you've just become one of the old farts.
No way dude! I'm still rockin the concert t-shirts and the diamond earring on layovers. Oh, wait.... My back hurts (freaking guppy), my belly is getting large, I can't hear (freaking guppy) and my nose and back hair can be braided. Yup. I'm officially old. |
Originally Posted by gettinbumped
(Post 2148116)
Easy there speed racer. I wasn't referring to the PILOTS, though on reading it again now I can see how it came off that way. I was referring to the fact that the last 16 years in this industry has SUCKED for all of us and it's really nice to have some positive momentum. In no way, shape or form was mine a post to infer that our pilots were anything short of heroic for making it through the past 16 years of crap. I sat next to countless guys/gals getting furloughed, bumped, and stagnated and it makes me absolutely thrilled every time I see a bid come out now to see those same names going to the widebodies, upgrading, etc.
I was merely referring to the fact that unlike buscappy, I would rather have a new hire who is genuinely happy to be here than one who isn't. I'm bummed that folks would ever think that I have anything but the utmost respect for EVERY pilot who safely endured the last 16 years at this airline, carrying the water while our management continuously crapped on us, our families, and our customers. I guess I need to consider my tone in future posts if that's the vibe I'm putting off. |
Originally Posted by gettinbumped
(Post 2148124)
My farts smell like roses!!!!
No way dude! I'm still rockin the concert t-shirts and the diamond earring on layovers. Oh, wait.... My back hurts (freaking guppy), my belly is getting large, I can't hear (freaking guppy) and my nose and back hair can be braided. Yup. I'm officially old. |
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