Maybe they never crossed the line, but showing up for an interview during a labor dispute certainly shows one up as 'opportunistic'. If the strike had been as long and bitter as the CAL strike, I'm pretty certain these 'opportunists' would have crossed the line in droves.

Which is probably why ALPA ended the strike as quickly as possible by accepting the company's B-scale proposal, even if only for a limited time.

 

Separate requirement, and some do require a degree, some don't. Some foreign jobs mentioned earlier also require 4 year degrees including Korean, Asiana, ANA, and every job in China.

 

Hmm I think it's more to do with that they have their head in the sand about recruitment. We'll see what happens.

 

AS a general rule, the degree requirement, is very much an American 'thing'. I know of Brits, South Africans and Aussies, flying for Korean, Cathay, Emirates, etc. - most of whom are military trained, and none of whom have a degree.

Having said that, the academic requirements for getting a JAA ATP, are far higher than in the US. It generally takes a couple of years to get all the writtens under the belt.

 

Awesome! Maybe if you aren't willing to get a college degree you should move to a foreign country. You'll be sure to get an airline job "over there".

The point being that it is far more difficult to get accepted into a foreign airline cadet program for locals or non residents. Than it is to get accepted into a university. There ain't no free lunch in this business, foreign or domestic.

 

I don't get the point you're trying to make. There are thousands of airline pilots flying around the world without a college degree who never participated in a cadet program.

The US is the only place where a degree is a requirement. But, getting a pilots license is a lot more difficult academically, and way more expensive, outside the US.

 

Korea, Japan, and China require expats to have a college degree. It is a requirement to have a work visa. You are considered a "foreign expert" and the country requires it to issue a work visa. Other countries may or may not require it.

I know a lot of Aussie pilots don't have degrees.

 

I have friends who fly for BA, Lufthansa, South African, Emirates, Nippon Cargo, Cathay, Korean, Qantas and Air New Zealand, and not one of them has a college degree. What they do have in common is a JAA ATP which is substantially more academically thorough than the comparable FAA ATP.

I often go to : https://jobs.flightglobal.com/jobs/flight-crew/ to view available jobs on that site. Today there are 519 jobs posted. I have never seen a degree listed as a requirement on any of the jobs posted.

Again, it is uniquely American to have a college degree as a requirement for a pilot job. And, I'm not suggesting that is a bad thing. Airlines historically have had to filter out the the thousands of applications they receive, and the college degree is useful for that purpose. Perhaps thats the only role a college degree has in the selection process!

 

every job in china? hmmm???? how the heck did I work there without one? no one ever asked & nobody cares! Gee and they even typed me on 2 different heavy's:=) They even converted my license and gave me a work visa....

 

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Contract Term: 5 years renewable
Location/Base: Commuting - extensive worldwide network
Ref #: 1398
Aircraft Type: B747-400
Rank: First Officer

Minimum Requirements
500+ hours on B744
1,000+ total multi crew Jet hours
2,000+ total flight hours
Flown on B744 within the last 12 months OR 24 months if currently flying on any other Multi Crew Jet Aircraft
Under 45 years of age
Hold a ATPL and have completed Secondary School OR Hold a CPL and hold a College or University Degree/Diploma