My 727 FE instructor in 95 told me in the past they had to give remedial classes to some new hires. They had to teach them what pressurization, hydraulic systems, etc was. From scratch.

 

But weren't they the ones who ended up not crossing the line and stayed on strike when the 539 were the ones who actually tried to be scab? I always thought the 570 were actually decent guys.

 

Well Dave if you read my post it was a response to the writer who posted United hired 250 hour pilots. Additionally you confirmed what I wrote, most had at least ATP and the bottom you experienced was 650 hours. When I was hired in 78 the lowest time person (a woman) had 850 or so hours and I'm sure there were others with slightly less, but not many. However, as you confirm the minimum allowed in the app was 350 and even the interns had more than that.

I was an LCA on the 737-200 in 95 and the lowest time F/O new hire I checked out was an intern with around 650+ hours.

So you didn't bust a single bubble at all you confirmed what I posted.

Thank you very much.

To the other poster:

Now were the 570 ever scabs? How many times does this have to be answered? NO! I believe only two actually crossed the picket line.

 

Oh and Dave the subject was minimum hours and you turned it into deficiency as pilots. You may have forgotten the senior caps when you were hired had many who were hired with almost no time and In their day the initial new-hire class was close to three months, mostly learning how to build the airplane systems.

Today it's a switchology approach to systems, read the check list, turn it off or on, check the inop list and then apply a performance penalty. Much simpler approach and it meets minimum FAA required system knowledge.

 

I know people in the program already

 

I know the focus is UAL here, but this may ruinate things at ATCA. "academy type" instructors eager for a job will work there for next to nothing just for the promise of a flow to UAL.
When I was there, ATCA was a very good job and it pays pretty decent. Now its going to be peanuts. There always seems to be a turd in the punchbowl.

 

"Once selected and hired by United, these pilots would start as United "new hires" and would be eligible to fly aircraft in United's narrow body fleet. "

When would they be eligible to "fly" the entire fleet? Which part of the contract separates the fleets and allows limiting pilots to a type?

Black helicopters aside, there is way more to this than what is currently shown.

 

Just in case, you don't really know, it doesn't. New hires have not hit wide bodies yet, although it's getting very close. 2 & 3 year guys have been getting a lot of 777 F/O bids.

The 767 fleet is the exception. The 767 is really a wide body, but for pay, it's a bit weird. Many new hires on the 767/757.

 

Black helicopters aside, it's simply a figure of speech written by somebody in the basement of the PR department. Once hired the only restriction is what their seniority can hold.

Sometimes hoof prints are simply evidence of horses.

 

As opposed to hoof noises..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHFXG3r_0B8