UAL MEC endorses Clinton
10-18-2016 | 08:04 AM
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Yeah, could be just a coincidence. I mean DAL and UAL's pensions were terminated. AMR's was frozen. The difference? PBGC directors appointed by different administrations. The FAA Administrator (former ALPA chief) appointed by Obama brought us FAR117. TSA admin appointed by Obama brought us KCM. NMB members appointed by Clinton and Obama mediated contract 2000 and 2012 respectively. All circumstantial evidence. What happened to us during the Reagan and Bush years was catastrophic....but i'm sure it was just coincidence. 
10-18-2016 | 08:06 AM
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Funny seeing the Trump-voting pilots flip out in this thread 
10-18-2016 | 08:11 AM
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Meanwhile the Clinton lovers are hiding in their emotional safe space.
If you can't at least have a constructive comment please feel free to not engage. It's that type of mentality that is hurting the country as a whole.
If you can't at least have a constructive comment please feel free to not engage. It's that type of mentality that is hurting the country as a whole.
10-18-2016 | 08:15 AM
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Only for those who don't understand what an endorsement is and what it is intended to accomplish. Our MEC rightfully endorsed the candidate who is far more likely to support our interests. Well done!
10-18-2016 | 08:16 AM
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They are asking for your support in helping them accomplish their job. One candidate supports organized labor, one does not.
My father in law was a 30 year firefighter and union leader. He also happens to be a Sean Hannity lover and is devoutly Catholic. He told me that every four years they would ask their membership to hold their noses and vote for the pro-labor candidates down the list, as he himself always did.
The union is there to protect your job. Regardless of any of your other beliefs, they need all the tools they can get. It's not rocket surgery.
My father in law was a 30 year firefighter and union leader. He also happens to be a Sean Hannity lover and is devoutly Catholic. He told me that every four years they would ask their membership to hold their noses and vote for the pro-labor candidates down the list, as he himself always did.
The union is there to protect your job. Regardless of any of your other beliefs, they need all the tools they can get. It's not rocket surgery.
10-18-2016 | 08:17 AM
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Yeah, could be just a coincidence. I mean DAL and UAL's pensions were terminated. AMR's was frozen. The difference? PBGC directors appointed by different administrations. The FAA Administrator (former ALPA chief) appointed by Obama brought us FAR117. TSA admin appointed by Obama brought us KCM. NMB members appointed by Clinton and Obama mediated contract 2000 and 2012 respectively. All circumstantial evidence. What happened to us during the Reagan and Bush years was catastrophic....but i'm sure it was just coincidence.
FAR117 was not born from the FAA administrator; several regional crashes were the root cause.
KCM? Seriously? I don't know what the root cause of KCM was, but that's some funny stuff there.
You're moving from partisan pabulum to hyper partisan horse feces.
10-18-2016 | 08:18 AM
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As I think about this even further I am PO'd for two reasons:
1. My MEC takes my dues money. They take yours too, but they take mine. If the MEC wants to come out with a public policy opinion they need to check with me first.
2. My MEC should be spending it's time, energy, and money doing things that enhance, and not detract from pilot unity. This bone-headed move just makes us argue within the pilot group about the MEC's actions. It's a dis-unifying event. That in turn reduces pilot solidarity, and that in turn makes us weaker as a bargaining unit. This decision by the MEC makes my union weaker. Shame on my MEC for wasting our dues money and making it harder to negotiate against management and enforce the contract our our LOA's.
1. My MEC takes my dues money. They take yours too, but they take mine. If the MEC wants to come out with a public policy opinion they need to check with me first.
2. My MEC should be spending it's time, energy, and money doing things that enhance, and not detract from pilot unity. This bone-headed move just makes us argue within the pilot group about the MEC's actions. It's a dis-unifying event. That in turn reduces pilot solidarity, and that in turn makes us weaker as a bargaining unit. This decision by the MEC makes my union weaker. Shame on my MEC for wasting our dues money and making it harder to negotiate against management and enforce the contract our our LOA's.
10-18-2016 | 08:20 AM
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No... it's the mentality that we "have" to have a 2-party candidate as the POTUS that is hurting this country as a whole. Trump and Clinton is the best this nation could come up with? This was the one and first time in history it made complete sense to ditch the D&R and go to a 3-rd party.
10-18-2016 | 08:22 AM
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But without the support of Babbitt and Huerta it never would have happened.
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