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Old 05-15-2018, 04:23 PM
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They'll catch up with subcontracting our flying.

Meanwhile, our hiring numbers will be similar to previous years. But somehow, we will remain below 3000 pilots.

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Old 05-15-2018, 05:05 PM
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No shi# detective......business is up......block hours are also. Growth happening. Hiring....albeit not as fast as we would all like. Trying to see how we were duped? Sounds like you have some sort of agenda to me. I’ll take the extra business any day. I’ll give the short sightedness of UPS a little benefit of the doubt to see if they can catch up.

Continue with your stellar detective work.....detective.
Hey detective how about you contribute some original thought to the discussion, guess I should just get used to the labeling by the B & G crew which I am sure your one of. Question the EB and got a hidden agenda, original. Its ok for them to sub contract cause business is up, another original thought. 3....

How about you ask your beloved EB to compare the amount of reserve lines from 18-04 to 17-04, or how about ask them to share the total amount of block the average crew member including reserves is flying in 18-03 vs 17-03. It's, ok that the schedules are killing us, cause business is up, let alone all the efficiencies we gave back. A concessionary contract at best and cost neutral to the company, we got duped! Great work as long as I got a 15K a year raise given your philosophy right? No hidden agenda, just think the EB has their own agenda and it doesn't include me. Time for them to go and new blood brought in.
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Old 05-15-2018, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CactusCrew View Post
They'll catch up with subcontracting our flying.

Meanwhile, our hiring numbers will be similar to previous years. But somehow, we will remain below 3000 pilots.


I doubt this year's number will match 2017. The slow down is already happening. Wait til the arbitration goes their way...I'm afraid to think about what's in store for us.
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Old 05-15-2018, 05:58 PM
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I doubt this year's number will match 2017. The slow down is already happening. Wait til the arbitration goes their way...I'm afraid to think about what's in store for us.
Agreed, they better be 100% right they are going to win or Trent and the rest of them need to be fired. If we lose we are done, a huge gamble for a few dollars every other paycheck IMHO. Seen this horror show before and the outcome not so good for the pilot group.
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Old 05-16-2018, 04:10 AM
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Between 1 May 17 and 1 May 18, the UPS seniority list grew by 127 IPA pilots.
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Old 05-16-2018, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by PastV1by10 View Post
Agreed, they better be 100% right they are going to win or Trent and the rest of them need to be fired. If we lose we are done, a huge gamble for a few dollars every other paycheck IMHO. Seen this horror show before and the outcome not so good for the pilot group.
We are not going to win in arbitration. The best we can hope for is some kind of monetary settlement. No arbitrator is going to force UPS to get rid of the contractors causing harm to the company and it's customers.
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:11 AM
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We are not going to win in arbitration. The best we can hope for is some kind of monetary settlement. No arbitrator is going to force UPS to get rid of the contractors causing harm to the company and it's customers.
So much for that iron clad scope clause the union is so proud of.
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:15 AM
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Between 1 May 17 and 1 May 18, the UPS seniority list grew by 127 IPA pilots.
I would think this year needs to be double that to keep up with deliveries. I dont see that happening.
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:20 AM
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subcontracting pilots will work out just fine for UPS
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Old 05-16-2018, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Harrisburg View Post
I doubt this year's number will match 2017. The slow down is already happening. Wait til the arbitration goes their way...I'm afraid to think about what's in store for us.
I doubt it too. I was just referencing the chief barista's response in a hotline. "Similar hiring as last year", don't worry about that subcontracting, we're growing.

Not the way I see it, they are violating our contract. Look squirrel, we're growing.

Agree with the others, what arbitrator is going to hurt the companies business. And a few extra $20s in the paycheck isn't worth it.
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