Apr 9th & May 7th classes
04-19-2018 | 06:46 AM
#52
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I'm curious exactly how many is "several".
I know there was a 2015 hire that left for FedEx after a few months but haven't heard of any recently, and did hear a rumor about a guy that left for Delta before he completed training...have not heard of any newhires leaving for SWA.
There have also been at least three newhires in the past three years who left to go back to corporate.
May those newhires who left (voluntarily) end up somewhere they'll be happier, and may people who actually want to work for UPS get that opportunity.
I know there was a 2015 hire that left for FedEx after a few months but haven't heard of any recently, and did hear a rumor about a guy that left for Delta before he completed training...have not heard of any newhires leaving for SWA.
There have also been at least three newhires in the past three years who left to go back to corporate.
May those newhires who left (voluntarily) end up somewhere they'll be happier, and may people who actually want to work for UPS get that opportunity.
04-19-2018 | 06:57 AM
#53
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I'm curious exactly how many is "several".
I know there was a 2015 hire that left for FedEx after a few months but haven't heard of any recently, and did hear a rumor about a guy that left for Delta before he completed training...have not heard of any newhires leaving for SWA.
There have also been at least three newhires in the past three years who left to go back to corporate.
May those newhires who left (voluntarily) end up somewhere they'll be happier, and may people who actually want to work for UPS get that opportunity.
I know there was a 2015 hire that left for FedEx after a few months but haven't heard of any recently, and did hear a rumor about a guy that left for Delta before he completed training...have not heard of any newhires leaving for SWA.
There have also been at least three newhires in the past three years who left to go back to corporate.
May those newhires who left (voluntarily) end up somewhere they'll be happier, and may people who actually want to work for UPS get that opportunity.
Boiler thats a question you need to ask the union. Like the company the union doesn't really share that much information with the membership. Obi Wan Kenobi (Salty) knows whether he shares the info I am not sure.
04-19-2018 | 09:25 AM
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Just waiting for incoming for speaking the truth. Cue J Bell, 3, 2, 1 with his Diatribe and how he is thinking he is helping the membership with his constant union backed attacks at anyone who disagrees with the main stream propaganda.
04-19-2018 | 09:40 AM
#56
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From: Doggie
There is no loyalty anymore. You are given the privilege to work for a great company, with great benefits, most likely the last Aviation job you will ever need, yet one slaps employer in the face after having spent valuable time and money to train you.
Not saying by any means UPS is a perfect place to work, far from it. But at least do your homework properly so you go in eyes wide open. Even worse is going in with the mentality of I’ll give it a shot and if not, I’ll bail. If SWA, Delta, whatever is your preferred choice, great, nothing wrong with that, but why make any employer spend all that time and effort if you have a good idea you are leaving?
Not saying by any means UPS is a perfect place to work, far from it. But at least do your homework properly so you go in eyes wide open. Even worse is going in with the mentality of I’ll give it a shot and if not, I’ll bail. If SWA, Delta, whatever is your preferred choice, great, nothing wrong with that, but why make any employer spend all that time and effort if you have a good idea you are leaving?
No need to answer, its a rhetorical question.
And while I agree that it is a privilege to works for UPS, I hope it wasn't just given to anyone. Most of us have earned the opportunity, with some luck and timing.
There's no loyalty on either side.
04-19-2018 | 02:35 PM
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I thought I was the only one who thought Joe was always so defensive. You would think by his rants on the Bar and Grill he negotiated the contract all by himself. I know we have a great union, just didn't know it was perfect!
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04-19-2018 | 03:15 PM
#58
Gets Weekends Off
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From: 767 captain
UPS deserves whatever it gets as far as people taking the job and leaving. The furlough should have taught us one thing if nothing else, It's just business. Treating this place with any emotion at all will lead to disappointment. Be selfish, they are.
04-20-2018 | 07:29 AM
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From: Leftof longitudinal
In a robust hiring environment, some pilots have more than one option. Timing as we all know is everything. We often grab the next rung up from current position and if offered the 'dream' job (family reasons, want to live in domicile, etc) we will keep moving. Happens at many airlines and UPS too. We have folks that come from legacies and Southwest for example, and others that get opportunity very early stages and leave for same. Reflection on individual pilot needs/wants and market opportunity. Same for the few who no show a class when offered as starting somewhere else. Fortunate timing for them to have two choices drop at same time.
Not many, but one here, and one there makes several
Happened in early 90's for many airlines. For 2018, so far 101 started. 101 still UPS.
2017 had several come and press on for various reasons.
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