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Old 09-23-2025 | 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Joachim
I was suggesting to have a section reserved for current pilots to encourage those who stay in the woodwork and not banning retirees as a whole. Really, a somewhat stricter moderation policy would probably take care of most issues. As others have said, it is only a few loud barrels who tend to derail discussion and clog up the site as if they own the place.
I understand where you’re coming from, but take my word for this, soon we may be asked to step up the pressure in order to get a contract, that messaging will be coming from members who are immune from punishment.
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Old 09-23-2025 | 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jetlaggy
A couple retirees ruin it for everyone…spending hours turning everything political. Everyone knows who they are.
This x 100.

everybody knows how great Enema man is and nobody cares.
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Old 09-23-2025 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jetlaggy
A couple retirees ruin it for everyone…spending hours turning everything political. Everyone knows who they are.
this this and this. These people constantly highjacking threads to spew division and crazy political rhetoric. The one dude can even turn a box of special K into a deep state leftist agenda. Then the other will scold paying dues pilots who dare think different than he.

and it’s not only those few retirees. There’s BK and the one dude who Thinks he is smart to finish all his post with a slated font sentence.

if there was a block button, I am SURE more people would join in discussions and share more ideas.

well done

off to find the mythical block button.

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Old 09-23-2025 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Brownose74
this this and this. These people constantly highjacking threads to spew division and crazy political rhetoric. The one dude can even turn a box of special K into a deep state leftist agenda. Then the other will scold paying dues pilots who dare think different than he.

and it’s not only those few retirees. There’s BK and the one dude who Thinks he is smart to finish all his post with a slated font sentence.

if there was a block button, I am SURE more people would join in discussions and share more ideas.

well done

off to find the mythical block button.

There definitely needs to be a block feature…once those guys figure out they are only talking to themselves they will move on.

Anyone afraid of a block feature realizes that they will blocked by most.
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Old 09-23-2025 | 09:36 AM
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For the most part, political talk is relegated to the political section which can easily be unfollowed so none of that shows up on your feed. Moderators, however, are slow to move the rare thread to politics section that creeps in. I suspect, with zero evidence, that they see relatively low traffic in the politics section and allow the rare flyer to ride for more viewership. Eg, “you’re fired thread.” No fun bashing the lefties when no one is watching.

I’m against the blocking feature. I get the allure but you miss out when these people make valid points or provide valuable insights. Take feet swift for example. When it comes to union business and union 101, he knows what he is talking about. Too bad he is more interested in being a maga spin doctor - if he spent half his time and energy explaining union stuff we’d all be better off.

Sideshow has been around the block too and knows his stuff. I wouldn’t block either of these guys if I had the chance, though the endless political drivel always blaming the same people for everything under the sun is long past getting old.

BK might be someone I’d consider, only because he says the same thing over and over, derails threads, rarely has a coherent thought, and baselessly attacks our EB. Every once in a while he makes a good point though. Still, I think we’d be better off without his participation.

AI will offer the solutions we need: settings to mute someone’s political posts, hiding the bickering / pointless back and forth strings between two people, etc. Ie., you don’t block people entirely, just filter the crap out.

Im in the camp that retirees should be free to post. I don’t think anyone, active or retired, should be posting about religion or politics on the B&G. Plenty of places they can do that, no need to bring it into the workplace.
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Old 09-23-2025 | 09:56 AM
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How bout they be responsible adults and earn the right to "not be blocked". Then their "valid points" would be seen...but until their nonsense stops they could just preach to each other. They know the rules but continure to disregard them. Not really someone whom I would take advice from anyways. The romper room antics is so childish.
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Old 09-23-2025 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by FTv3
For the most part, political talk is relegated to the political section which can easily be unfollowed so none of that shows up on your feed. Moderators, however, are slow to move the rare thread to politics section that creeps in. I suspect, with zero evidence, that they see relatively low traffic in the politics section and allow the rare flyer to ride for more viewership. Eg, “you’re fired thread.” No fun bashing the lefties when no one is watching.

I’m against the blocking feature. I get the allure but you miss out when these people make valid points or provide valuable insights. Take feet swift for example. When it comes to union business and union 101, he knows what he is talking about. Too bad he is more interested in being a maga spin doctor - if he spent half his time and energy explaining union stuff we’d all be better off.

Sideshow has been around the block too and knows his stuff. I wouldn’t block either of these guys if I had the chance, though the endless political drivel always blaming the same people for everything under the sun is long past getting old.

BK might be someone I’d consider, only because he says the same thing over and over, derails threads, rarely has a coherent thought, and baselessly attacks our EB. Every once in a while he makes a good point though. Still, I think we’d be better off without his participation.

AI will offer the solutions we need: settings to mute someone’s political posts, hiding the bickering / pointless back and forth strings between two people, etc. Ie., you don’t block people entirely, just filter the crap out.

Im in the camp that retirees should be free to post. I don’t think anyone, active or retired, should be posting about religion or politics on the B&G. Plenty of places they can do that, no need to bring it into the workplace.
I don’t think the logic checks out. Many people block the B&G altogether. It would be better if they just blocked individuals. No one should be forced to sift through pages of FS’s monologues or BK’s back and forth mudslinging. I’m sure the valuable aspects of their contributions will filter through the members who have the patience for them. A block button is a pretty elementary forum feature. That and some basic moderation could help.
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Old 09-23-2025 | 02:26 PM
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People avoid the B&G because it’s too often a toxic environment, low on the civility level. It’s slowly getting better though….

Blocking people is a bad solution. I blocked everyone who more than occasionally posted political crap, regardless of what side of the aisle they are perched, from my FB feed. What’s left is a few pics of some overpriced dinner plates, annual holiday/ birthday family photos, and a ship-ton of ads. Saving grace is reels showing chicks in bikinis, dumba$$es doing dumba$$ things on motorcycles, and people explaining home renovation projects. In other words, useless scrolling. So as Boiler said earlier, and until AI can start smart filtering posts, we do have the ability to simply skip reading posts from the names of people we don’t like.

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Old 09-23-2025 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jetlaggy
There definitely needs to be a block feature…once those guys figure out they are only talking to themselves they will move on.

Anyone afraid of a block feature realizes that they will blocked by most.
They won’t move on though. They’ve been ‘only talking to themselves’ for years and seem more than happy to bully any dissenting opinions (not just the political ones either) right out of the B&G. People aren’t stupid & no one enjoys having their name dragged through the mud just for expressing an alternate viewpoint. Most people with half a brain think twice about posting there at all & the result is the worthless echo chamber of old men shouting at clouds that we have now. Not going to change until it gets more rigorously moderated which means it’s not going to change anytime soon. Let the buffoons have it. At least we know who the crazies are.
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Old 09-23-2025 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FTv3
People avoid the B&G because it’s too often a toxic environment, low on the civility level. It’s slowly getting better though….

Blocking people is a bad solution. I blocked everyone who more than occasionally posted political crap, regardless of what side of the aisle they are perched, from my FB feed. What’s left is a few pics of some overpriced dinner plates, annual holiday/ birthday family photos, and a ship-ton of ads. Saving grace is reels showing chicks in bikinis, dumba$$es doing dumba$$ things on motorcycles, and people explaining home renovation projects. In other words, useless scrolling. So as Boiler said earlier, and until AI can start smart filtering posts, we do have the ability to simply skip reading posts from the names of people we don’t like.

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But putting forth the effort of scrolling thru and picking out what is nonsense is what keeps people away….thus contrary to what you are trying to achieve by not having blocking. With blocking more will come and participate.
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