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Old 09-08-2025 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Brownose74
we are missing the forest looking for a tree. In the gran scheme of things, I believe most IPA members are tired of the same 2 retirees coming up ganging up on anyone who has a different view. I enjoy the input of most the people who are retired, heck most of them are chill as heck on the BG.
then there’s our infamous BK whom I have no clue how he still has a job. The guy is a total disgrace to our group.
The solution is quite simply really, a block button, and heavier moderation.
the one dude yesterday stating that we make more than delta? I mean really? Yes, he’s a data guy and, and he might be correct in the long run, but come on man. It’s giving the company a foot to stand on during negotiations. Stuff like that needs to maybe be moderated more. That’s why it’s always been said, “don’t negotiate in public”.
why BK is gaining traction is due to the fact that the IPA, like any other union, have members that differ in opinions.
I’ve flown with guys who want home basing. Others who want that other type of bidding —for the love of me I forgot the name— , or tons more money cus UPS will never enforce article 13 language.
it’s okay for people to rally behind others who differ opinions.
to me a simple block button or a report button would be beneficial when attacks are becoming personal.
JB attacking a line pilots flight, in a public forum? Really? Why? Why is this allowed? What is the relevance of a IPA pilot that pays dues that has 1 flight that’s in the opinion of a retiree not good, beneficial to us as a group? Why isn’t that moderated? Why is that dude JB given total authority to just disparage anyone who doesn’t drink the IPA cool aid?
then there’s the guy that for everything has to make every post political. FFS man, he needs to go to away already. He seems like a sharp man, has valuable input but has to make everything god damn political. That’s the stuff that needs to be moderated and these people warned to stop or go away.
If you think BK is a disgrace for pointing out all our many deficiencies, well, you will probably settle for a subpar TA. His delivery method can definitely use some refinements, but he is bringing to the surface many valid points. Many brown nosers in our B&G.
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Old 09-08-2025 | 03:24 PM
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I flew with BK from ICN to CGN, so I had over six hours to chat with him. I will say, he really knows his numbers. His presentation on B&G could be stronger, but it feels like the same group of retirees keeps egging him on. But hey, good reading material when I'm on the toilet.
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Old 09-08-2025 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Brownose74
we are missing the forest looking for a tree. In the gran scheme of things, I believe most IPA members are tired of the same 2 retirees coming up ganging up on anyone who has a different view. I enjoy the input of most the people who are retired, heck most of them are chill as heck on the BG.
then there’s our infamous BK whom I have no clue how he still has a job. The guy is a total disgrace to our group.
The solution is quite simply really, a block button, and heavier moderation.
the one dude yesterday stating that we make more than delta? I mean really? Yes, he’s a data guy and, and he might be correct in the long run, but come on man. It’s giving the company a foot to stand on during negotiations. Stuff like that needs to maybe be moderated more. That’s why it’s always been said, “don’t negotiate in public”.
why BK is gaining traction is due to the fact that the IPA, like any other union, have members that differ in opinions.
I’ve flown with guys who want home basing. Others who want that other type of bidding —for the love of me I forgot the name— , or tons more money cus UPS will never enforce article 13 language.
it’s okay for people to rally behind others who differ opinions.
to me a simple block button or a report button would be beneficial when attacks are becoming personal.
JB attacking a line pilots flight, in a public forum? Really? Why? Why is this allowed? What is the relevance of a IPA pilot that pays dues that has 1 flight that’s in the opinion of a retiree not good, beneficial to us as a group? Why isn’t that moderated? Why is that dude JB given total authority to just disparage anyone who doesn’t drink the IPA cool aid?
then there’s the guy that for everything has to make every post political. FFS man, he needs to go to away already. He seems like a sharp man, has valuable input but has to make everything god damn political. That’s the stuff that needs to be moderated and these people warned to stop or go away.
If you think BK is a disgrace for pointing out all our many deficiencies, well, you will probably settle for a subpar TA. His delivery method can definitely use some refinements, but he is bringing to the surface many valid points. Many brown nosers in our B&G.
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Old 09-08-2025 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Cachaco
If you think BK is a disgrace for pointing out all our many deficiencies, well, you will probably settle for a subpar TA. His delivery method can definitely use some refinements, but he is bringing to the surface many valid points. Many brown nosers in our B&G.
tuche on the screen name! However I only brought up BK cus of his personal attacks on people. Specially on a public forum. Some of these personal attacks are too much. That’s just weak. As far as his take on ipa and ups, I agree, the guy has compelling points, and many have Merritt.
that being said I would never disparage a fellow IpA brother or sister in the name of a new contract, you got beef with a person do it face to face and be a man about it. Many people have tried to confront him via text or email and what a surprise, he never replies. Can’t imagine how much he would coward if another pilot he’s insulted actually goes face to face with him. He’d prolly poo himself.
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Old 09-08-2025 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Brownose74
tuche on the screen name! However I only brought up BK cus of his personal attacks on people. Specially on a public forum. Some of these personal attacks are too much. That’s just weak. As far as his take on ipa and ups, I agree, the guy has compelling points, and many have Merritt.
that being said I would never disparage a fellow IpA brother or sister in the name of a new contract, you got beef with a person do it face to face and be a man about it. Many people have tried to confront him via text or email and what a surprise, he never replies. Can’t imagine how much he would coward if another pilot he’s insulted actually goes face to face with him. He’d prolly poo himself.
Valid points.
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Old 09-08-2025 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CCCXCI
Maybe not you but when you post online that we are making more than Delta that is exactly what you are saying. Maybe not your intent but the UPS negotiating team is absolutely taking that to the table and using it against the IPA. If you don’t think so you are out of your mind.

You think the UPS negotiators are getting new found information from a B&G poster?
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Old 09-08-2025 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jetlaggy
You think the UPS negotiators are getting new found information from a B&G poster?
It is repeatedly brought up that management reads it and uses contrarian opinions against the NC during negotiations.
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Old 09-08-2025 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Swedish Blender
Okay. You’re vested after year 1. So someone who quits sometime after that will eventually get a check.

Will they will be considered retired once that happens?
Originally Posted by Cachaco
If you think BK is a disgrace for pointing out all our many deficiencies, well, you will probably settle for a subpar TA. His delivery method can definitely use some refinements, but he is bringing to the surface many valid points. Many brown nosers in our B&G.
BK is an absolute disgrace. While he does on occasion make a good point, the majority of his complaints lack context and intentinally misplace blame. In other words, he's agenda driven.

How he interacts with others is an embarrasement. Willing to slam and attack guys he knows nothing about simply because they don't agree with every point he tries to make. Zero debate, just attack.
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Old 09-08-2025 | 09:26 PM
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Is there a particular reason you quoted me then spoke of BK?

The two posts you quoted are not related.
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Old 09-09-2025 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Swedish Blender
Is there a particular reason you quoted me then spoke of BK?

The two posts you quoted are not related.
You were not meant to be quoted. Not sure why that happened.
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