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07-18-2022, 07:11 AM

#391

FTv3

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Originally Posted by FTv3

I know 3 IPA folk who have spouses flying at 5X. Consensus is that it’s basically the same schitt, different color. Some of their contract points are better and vice versa. Which one is actually better is all in the preferences of that person.

FX, not 5X.

SDF 74 has a noticeable amount of shorter pairings than ANC (not drastically different though). Shouldn’t have any problems transferring domiciles within the first year.

Best suggestion is to network and get your hands on a set of bid packs and study them.

07-18-2022, 11:59 AM

#392

aeroplanez

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Originally Posted by FTv3

Wait am I reading this wrong or did you mean something else?

07-20-2022, 05:05 AM

#393

airplanes

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Does anyone know what life as an IPA sim instructor is? How does pay work? Do you fly at all? Good schedule? How long until a newhire could get it? I didn’t find anything with the search function. Thanks

07-20-2022, 09:35 AM

#394

doublebed

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Originally Posted by airplanes

Partial answer: I would say if you are ambitious you could get an instructor job anywhere from 2-4 years. There are 2017 hire instructors.

07-20-2022, 03:54 PM

#395

FTv3

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Originally Posted by doublebed

Partial answer: I would say if you are ambitious you could get an instructor job anywhere from 2-4 years. There are 2017 hire instructors.

All those guys were former IP (at least in the sim) at their previous carriers. OTW It’s a long, long road. Not sure if 4 years might be a little early, probably at least a year or 2 longer.

Advantage of it is you don’t do back side of the clock stuff when you are teaching.

07-20-2022, 06:52 PM

#396

Celeste3205

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Originally Posted by airplanes

Pay: you bid for whatever the best paying line you could hold and you get that credit, plus $125 per instruction day on top of that, which has not been increased in over 20 years. You are required to work 14 days out of our 28 day pay periods. If you work more, then you get 4 hrs/day over 14.

Your are required to maintain currency, but there is flexibility on how that is done. Most of us rotate to the line a few times a year, if not more.

Sched: It can be bankers hours, but I've also had 3am shows. We do everything we can to change those. Sometimes that means briefing the day before, or keeping your eyes open for open sim time at a more desirable hour.

As far as getting hired, it has gotten pretty competitive. Most have previous training and/or checking experience. I believe we've hired some after only a couple of years. Living locally is basically expected, for the flexibility it gives them. We have some who commute into the job, but they were hired when they lived in domicile.

08-21-2022, 02:05 PM

#397

doubles

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How long to hold “afternoon” turns on either light twin?

08-21-2022, 03:54 PM

#398

Rocket Bob

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On the 75/76, probably 100 off the bottom

08-21-2022, 04:32 PM

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For expectation management.. how long for SDF 75/A300 to have a commuter friendly schedule? (In my case from Phx)

08-26-2022, 06:45 PM

#400

moxiepilot

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Originally Posted by FTv3

ANC base has its benefits:

Its far enough away from Louisville to have some of its own autonomy, its own culture = more laid back.
ANC tends to have longer trips, requiring fewer commutes.
Conflict bidding - doesn’t take much seniority to start taking advantage of this = extra paid days off here and there.
- Guys will then pick up time and a half trips and get paid a whole lot for extra for the same amount of days originally scheduled for.
Lots of time and a half trips available.
Tons of premiums on each trip due to schedule changes and covid LOA agreements. Its not uncommon to get up to 10 extra hours per trip.

It has its cons:

Difficult commute
long commute
Typically can’t jump right into a trip like you can in SDF; usually have to arrive 0.5 to 1 day early.
Trips and schedules are slowly becoming less commuter friendly. More stuffer trips appearing in otherwise clean lines (think short trip sitting in the middle of a row of days off).
- 1 commute per month is desirable; junior guys starting to look at 3x per month or staying up there on days off.
Conflict bidding less of an option for those low on senority.

Also, there’s Asia flying on SDF 74 and the Z and MD guys do it too. Prob is ASIA is the ANC guy’s main turf and its more than just hotel lockdowns: The food is horrific, Taiwan especially and the company has no qualms about locking you in there for 2-3 days at a time. The catering isn’t much better in a lot of these places, so youre often getting hit with crap food for days on end. The company can’t or won’t always stock the planes with fresh linens for the bunks - you’re depending on those rest periods to survive. Covid LOA’s are creating some horrific schedules and long days (Europe to HK, change planes then fly to TPE or ICN = 17-20hr duty). Schedule changes by the minute - get old pretty quickly and defeats the purpose of bidding for a line. $hit like this, continually added up with no end in sight makes it a miserable experience.

Re: non heavy drivers not being assigned 74/MD as newhires. I’ve heard consistently from guys in the training dept that the data is pretty clear: putting guys from the RJ’s/corporate/fighter realms into the 75/bus results in fewer training failures.

Yes thanks for this summary