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Old 01-21-2017 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DC8 Driver
11,000 hour B-767 Captain at Atlas. Been a Captain on 7 different jets with no accidents, incidents or violations. Never failed a checkride in my life, current and qualified.

Really bummed out, I wish they would at least give me the opportunity to fail the Hogan.
Dude... Im bummed out for you, geesh. You sound like the average guy in my class, and it doesn't seem plausible a computer system would dunk you so quick.

Do you have a four-year degree?
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Old 01-21-2017 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Swedish Blender
There have been quite a few hired from Atlas lately. Anyone you know that would write a rec?

Anyone from a previous airline?

I agree you will have to go to a job fair to tilt the scales without a letter.
Thanks guys, I have a friend at UPS that just filled out a rec for me. We'll see what happens.
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Old 01-21-2017 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DC8 Driver
Thanks guys, I have a friend at UPS that just filled out a rec for me. We'll see what happens.
After a few conversations with people who used to assist with interviews I believe that the value of someone's recommendation has changed throughout the years.

For a while a recommendation could help someone to get an interview, however, when you interviewed you were on your own. In other words they didn't look at recommendations at that point.
Later they reversed it, you were on your own as far as getting the interview (computer scoring and selection) but after your interview they'd review all your recommendations and if they were solid you could get a boost in your ranking.

Now I believe it's a combination of the two systems, computer scoring AND recommendations are looked at when selecting interviewees.
I recently submitted a recommendation for another friend and got this reply:


"...Our team will evaluate (xyz's) application based on (his/her) credentials, your input and the automated scoring system generated via the application process..."


If you're serious about this job I'd still go to a job seminar. A personal conversation, no matter how short, is typically very helpful to a recruiter. Anyone can "look" good on paper. However, once a new-hire wannabe opens up his/her mouth pretending is much more difficult.
Five of my friends have started here in the last 10 months or so. They ALL attended job fairs.
Wish you luck!
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Old 01-21-2017 | 07:52 PM
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Just met with UPS at a job fair. Overall great experience. Nice to talk to someone. I was surprise how many notes she took while we talked. She gave me her business card and told me to email her stating we talked at the job fair (for what its worth). Hopefully its a good sign. Maybe her email is full, who knows.
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Old 01-21-2017 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by slim550
Just met with UPS at a job fair. Overall great experience. Nice to talk to someone. I was surprise how many notes she took while we talked. She gave me her business card and told me to email her stating we talked at the job fair (for what its worth). Hopefully its a good sign. Maybe her email is full, who knows.
Was it Frances?
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Old 01-22-2017 | 06:00 AM
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Been nearly 6 weeks since I interviewed and not a peep. Not a yes, not a no, not a pool letter, nothing. Radio silence is odd given that nearly everyone else I've talked to who interviewed in December has heard something (be it positive or negative). Anyone else out there in the same situation?
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Old 01-22-2017 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght
Been nearly 6 weeks since I interviewed and not a peep. Not a yes, not a no, not a pool letter, nothing. Radio silence is odd given that nearly everyone else I've talked to who interviewed in December has heard something (be it positive or negative). Anyone else out there in the same situation?
Could be PRIA checks, previous employer dragging their feet, etc.
Unless told otherwise no news = good news.
Hang in there.
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Old 01-22-2017 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght
Been nearly 6 weeks since I interviewed and not a peep. Not a yes, not a no, not a pool letter, nothing. Radio silence is odd given that nearly everyone else I've talked to who interviewed in December has heard something (be it positive or negative). Anyone else out there in the same situation?
Are you currently working overseas?

Perhaps it is a background clearance issue (taking longer than normal)
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Old 01-22-2017 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by whalesurfer
After a few conversations with people who used to assist with interviews I believe that the value of someone's recommendation has changed throughout the years.

For a while a recommendation could help someone to get an interview, however, when you interviewed you were on your own. In other words they didn't look at recommendations at that point.
Later they reversed it, you were on your own as far as getting the interview (computer scoring and selection) but after your interview they'd review all your recommendations and if they were solid you could get a boost in your ranking.

Now I believe it's a combination of the two systems, computer scoring AND recommendations are looked at when selecting interviewees.
I recently submitted a recommendation for another friend and got this reply:


"...Our team will evaluate (xyz's) application based on (his/her) credentials, your input and the automated scoring system generated via the application process..."


If you're serious about this job I'd still go to a job seminar. A personal conversation, no matter how short, is typically very helpful to a recruiter. Anyone can "look" good on paper. However, once a new-hire wannabe opens up his/her mouth pretending is much more difficult.
Five of my friends have started here in the last 10 months or so. They ALL attended job fairs.
Wish you luck!
Thanks Whalesurfer,

That information is very helpful. I have some friends going to the next job fair in Vegas and I'm going to try and join them.

Thank you for taking the time to give some background on how their scoring system coupled with a recommendation letter works.
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Old 01-22-2017 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght
Been nearly 6 weeks since I interviewed and not a peep.
You have smashed the 20 day record... That was the longest of anyone waiting that I had heard of.

When I was notified I had been placed in the pool (last Fall), it was a few months before they sent out the PRIA forms and began the process. So in my situation, they put you in the "holding tank" until they decided to move forward. With all the hiring and classes going on now, maybe they have streamlined the process some and they are actually doing backgrounds on you; hence the reason for the wait? I don't know... just guessing.

Anyway... like Whale said, no news is good news.
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