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Old 09-30-2019, 08:12 PM
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Maybe I shouldn't be saying this on a public forum. I'm an awac captain with north of 10 years seniority. My total compensation will be north or $170,000 this year... To fly a 50 seat jet... I have a family with 2 young kids. Our insurance is second to none, and with our 16 year old concessionary, it will hurt when I move on. I'll say it again... Management has offered us Endeavors entire contract; HUGE rates and all... They know how much they would save getting rid of our insurance. My families health is much more important to me than a small raise (I'd like to see a similar seniority endeavor captains pay stub and the end of the year and compare).

If you feel there is a better company to work for and make more money, I'm sure they will hire you. I'll give the union credit on this, and only this. They didn't cave on our amazing insurance, and I thank them for that!
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Maybe I shouldn't be saying this on a public forum. I'm an awac captain with north of 10 years seniority. My total compensation will be north or $170,000 this year... To fly a 50 seat jet... I have a family with 2 young kids. Our insurance is second to none, and with our 16 year old concessionary, it will hurt when I move on. I'll say it again... Management has offered us Endeavors entire contract; HUGE rates and all... They know how much they would save getting rid of our insurance. My families health is much more important to me than a small raise (I'd like to see a similar seniority endeavor captains pay stub and the end of the year and compare).



If you feel there is a better company to work for and make more money, I'm sure they will hire you. I'll give the union credit on this, and only this. They didn't cave on our amazing insurance, and I thank them for that!


I love our insurance and it kept me from going bankrupt when I had a very sick family member. Not sure how you can make $170K unless you work a lot and pick up massive amounts of critical open time. But I seem to do ok for myself.
I am not being a Debby Downer but I’m not expecting hefty raises. 3%, I’d be surprised. This way, I won’t be so disappointed.
I don’t want the Endeavor agreement because all of our soft pay will go away. The rigs are there for more efficient and productive schedules. When I come to work, I come to work, to fly and not sit in the hotel or crewroom staring at the 4 walls. Imagine doing 12 hour duty days for a measly 3 hours pay? No thank you.
Or PSA with 11 days off and 75 hours credit? No, I’ll pass.


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Old 10-01-2019, 10:14 AM
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I love our insurance and it kept me from going bankrupt when I had a very sick family member. Not sure how you can make $170K unless you work a lot and pick up massive amounts of critical open time. But I seem to do ok for myself.
I am not being a Debby Downer but I’m not expecting hefty raises. 3%, I’d be surprised. This way, I won’t be so disappointed.
I don’t want the Endeavor agreement because all of our soft pay will go away. The rigs are there for more efficient and productive schedules. When I come to work, I come to work, to fly and not sit in the hotel or crewroom staring at the 4 walls. Imagine doing 12 hour duty days for a measly 3 hours pay? No thank you.
Or PSA with 11 days off and 75 hours credit? No, I’ll pass.


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I'm talking TOTAL compensation (including salary, cost of health plan, and 401k matching). But that being said, my year end total salary is not going to suck this year.
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Old 10-01-2019, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by trevtt600 View Post
I'm talking TOTAL compensation (including salary, cost of health plan, and 401k matching). But that being said, my year end total salary is not going to suck this year.
Thank you for not talking about per diem, I don’t think I could stand reading ten pages of whether it is or is not compensation.
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Thank you for not talking about per diem, I don’t think I could stand reading ten pages of whether it is or is not compensation.
Haha....so true!

Just tell me what Box 1 of your W-2 reads like every other taxed employee in the country does. Leave it to pilots to make it more difficult. There’s no need to know how much 401K match or direct contribution you got on money that you can’t pull out immediately without incurring a penalty.
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Old 10-01-2019, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by trevtt600 View Post
I'm talking TOTAL compensation (including salary, cost of health plan, and 401k matching). But that being said, my year end total salary is not going to suck this year.


I didn’t do as well as making $170K but I won’t be hurting either. I do gross six figures. I need to as I’m putting one child through college and the other is a high school junior who wants to go off to college as well. And I don’t include per diem because it’s not income but meal reimbursement.




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Old 10-01-2019, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by trevtt600 View Post
Maybe I shouldn't be saying this on a public forum. I'm an awac captain with north of 10 years seniority. My total compensation will be north or $170,000 this year... To fly a 50 seat jet... I have a family with 2 young kids. Our insurance is second to none, and with our 16 year old concessionary, it will hurt when I move on. I'll say it again... Management has offered us Endeavors entire contract; HUGE rates and all... They know how much they would save getting rid of our insurance. My families health is much more important to me than a small raise (I'd like to see a similar seniority endeavor captains pay stub and the end of the year and compare).

If you feel there is a better company to work for and make more money, I'm sure they will hire you. I'll give the union credit on this, and only this. They didn't cave on our amazing insurance, and I thank them for that!
This true, our captain rates are all with in 5ish percent of the top of the industry for regionals. Pair that with our other contract language and insurance and no doubt our captains have it best in the regional industry. The problem lies with the FO rates, we are way behind industry standard something in the ballpark of 25-30% lower. Yea our sign on bonus is $41k but that doesn’t make up for higher pay coupled with the other companies sign on bonus’.
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Old 10-08-2019, 03:26 AM
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Our MEC aid meeting this week and going over the TA. Then they’ll decide to whether to send it out for a vote or not.


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Old 10-08-2019, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by trevtt600 View Post
Maybe I shouldn't be saying this on a public forum. I'm an awac captain with north of 10 years seniority. My total compensation will be north or $170,000 this year... To fly a 50 seat jet... I have a family with 2 young kids. Our insurance is second to none, and with our 16 year old concessionary, it will hurt when I move on. I'll say it again... Management has offered us Endeavors entire contract; HUGE rates and all... They know how much they would save getting rid of our insurance. My families health is much more important to me than a small raise (I'd like to see a similar seniority endeavor captains pay stub and the end of the year and compare).

If you feel there is a better company to work for and make more money, I'm sure they will hire you. I'll give the union credit on this, and only this. They didn't cave on our amazing insurance, and I thank them for that!
Trevor must write the ads to attract new hires.
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Old 10-08-2019, 11:59 AM
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Trevor must write the ads to attract new hires.
It cool... He can fund the massive ammouts of flight-pay-loss that the road shows will create. Shut up and enjoy your junior man while the mec dines on gyro.
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