Omnislash

Seriously? Why start now? You have basically written a dissertation in previous posts. All I'm saying is to get your facts straight before slamming the people that bust their ass for us. It doesn't say much when you need to publicly ask an open forum for answers to questions that the people doing the work can actually answer for you. The likely reason for this is that the answer you got directly wasn't what you wanted to hear. That's unfortunate but not a reason to start passing your own feelings and distaste as facts.

Omnislash

Once again you are misinformed. That's not how it works at all. Pilots that upgrade don't get paid as a captain until they fly as a captain. It is a smart use of our trade language to trade a leg to get paid in the higher position that they are already awarded.

jj158

OmniSlash, do you want to talk so I can provide more context? I'm willing to provide more details so that you understand why I asked on here.

Also, can you please show me where I provided misinformation? I'm not asking for you to show me to put you on the spot. I'm asking you so I can stop saying it moving forward.

DarkSideMoon

Swaps are different than drops. Drops need approval. Swaps can only be denied if they’re generating extra credit or there’s some kind of duty issue.

What likely happened is that-
Captain A got downgraded with an effective date of July 1. He or she goes to downgrade training end of June. They retain captain pay until they fly as an FO, OR 30 days from the effective staffing date. Since we had a billion reserves to no open time, very few actually flew as an FO in July, which means they held captain pay until July 31 when they go back to FO pay.

However, many of the captains got re-upgraded with an effective date of August 1. This means that on or after Aug 1 they can fly as a captain, but they don’t actually start accruing captain pay until they touch an airplane OR 30 days from the August 1 staffing date, whichever happens first.

So, if Captain A was smart, they would attempt to fly as soon into August as possible. They may have either trolled through schedules in CSS or called up their friends who are lineholders and asked if they could arrange a swap. Scheduling can only deny it if there is some sort of operational need (IE it will put someone out of duty limits) or it is generating extra credit (IE swapping a single leg but not dropping min day).

Assuming captain A flies the first week of August and doesn’t get called on reserve the rest of the month, this contractually legal maneuver saves them from almost an entire month of FO pay.

Read through the compensation section. This is not some union perk, this is knowing your contract. Anyone else in the company could do the same thing. If you have some legit evidence of graft or favoritism from the union I’d love to hear it, but “this ain’t it”.

Omnislash

That's literally what multiple pilots are doing in their responses to you. You are just not willing to accept when you are wrong.

mcat

Official Furlough numbers: 138 with 21 downgrades.

dremaldent

A lot better than we were expecting at least. Hopefully we can get everyone back on property ASAP once this is all over.

mcat

Must have gotten another block hour increase for October. Hope everyone is back by January!

want2flytish

so what’s the cutoff seniority #???

WiscoAviator

420 assuming nobody above that bids FUR