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Old 08-12-2015 | 12:28 PM
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The ironic thing about you posting about the flow and going to mainline is there are more ex-AWAC guys at mainline than PSA or Piedmont combined...
That's wonderful! And I'm sure that is going to now Change really soon. Glad you got in when you did.

You are right, US Airways didn't touch any WO'ed people back in the day. It was the kiss of death back then to work at a Wo'ed and get hired at Airways. Piedmont is now sending 15 over the next 3 months which is very nice.
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Old 08-12-2015 | 12:54 PM
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That's wonderful! And I'm sure that is going to now Change really soon. Glad you got in when you did.

You are right, US Airways didn't touch any WO'ed people back in the day. It was the kiss of death back then to work at a Wo'ed and get hired at Airways. Piedmont is now sending 15 over the next 3 months which is very nice.
Not really true. There are a few ex-PDT and PSA guys here. But they are few and far between. The reason they are here now is because they HAVE to be "hired". AWAC as a company hires a lot of great people, and Airways reconized it. Kudos to them. It's unfortunate the door is shut on the quality applicants now. The difference in those hired off the street vs the flows is eye opening. Especially on the PSA side. PDT guys for the most part are pretty good.

That being said the Eagle guys are class acts. Glad they are finally coming over.
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Old 08-12-2015 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Name User
Not really true. There are a few ex-PDT and PSA guys here. But they are few and far between. The reason they are here now is because they HAVE to be "hired". AWAC as a company hires a lot of great people, and Airways reconized it. Kudos to them. It's unfortunate the door is shut on the quality applicants now. The difference in those hired off the street vs the flows is eye opening. Especially on the PSA side. PDT guys for the most part are pretty good.

That being said the Eagle guys are class acts. Glad they are finally coming over.
Actually it is really true. ALG, PDT and PSA folks had the hardest time even getting an interview while Mesa, TSA, Commutair, and AWAC were getting interviewed and hired. Yes some WO'ed pilots got hired however few & far between. Not until US Airways gave the WO'ed Preferential interviews did they even start hiring at a respectable rate about 7 years ago.

There's eye opening pilots at every major airline (jumpseated on a few Majors where the Captain scared the hell out of me and his FO) and ever regional has those that have slipped thru the cracks for sure also.

I agree that it's not good that the door will be shut on many but then again it's good to see a Mainline Carrier taking care of it's own regional feed pilots. If American is okay with a pilot carrying it's paying pax on Eagle then why shouldn't it be okay to have the pilot fly at Mainline if they get through the training?

Like I said all airlines have a few that slip thru the cracks and accidents happen at every major and regional.

Then again even if the door is shut at American it only means more chances at Delta and United for sure.
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Old 08-12-2015 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchtrim
You seem to forget you can't predict the future. Since you're seemingly so narrow sighted, don't be surprised when awac ends up providing lift for the contract carriers who can't staff properly due to poor wages and living conditions. That may even include piedmont! Going to the dirt cheapest rock bottom sell your soul to fly a jet company to get to the promise land of a legacy doesn't always work.
Exactly. I bet you, more than anything, they are working on new flying with another carrier. That is the only thing that explains our TA getting done out of nowhere.

I'm thinking Delta again. Whatever RAH is doing for them, on the 145s, has to be **** poor considering how F'd RAH is. Seems to me that old RA might be coming to his senses. You get what you pay for.
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Old 08-12-2015 | 03:48 PM
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Word is delta is very unhappy with the product it's current regionals are providing. They didn't come to us last time for no reason. Our owners were smart enough to walk away since the verbage was so volatile. Looking like we may have the upper hand as the other regionals race to the bottom business model fails.
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Old 08-12-2015 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CAirBear
Exactly. I bet you, more than anything, they are working on new flying with another carrier. That is the only thing that explains our TA getting done out of nowhere.
While you might be correct in your assumption.... The progress made at AWAC is not "out of nowhere." Negotiations have been long going for years. So congrats on an agreement. It's still just a "tentative" agreement, about as "tentative as that delta flying you had.
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Old 08-13-2015 | 06:45 AM
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Keep in mind that Air Wisconsin walked away from Delta. Personally a smart move by AWAC.
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Old 08-13-2015 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by squib
While you might be correct in your assumption.... The progress made at AWAC is not "out of nowhere." Negotiations have been long going for years. So congrats on an agreement. It's still just a "tentative" agreement, about as "tentative as that delta flying you had.
Actually, the Delta flying was an agreement in "principal"
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Old 08-13-2015 | 08:23 AM
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Anyone AWAC guys know of good crew rates near DCA? I'm going to OBAP tomorrow and need to get a room.
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Old 08-13-2015 | 09:19 AM
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I think the cheapest place is the Americana. 65-70 out the door? Been years since I've stayed there. A dump but cheap.
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