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Old 01-01-2017, 03:30 PM
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LOL, so you don't pick an Airline Based on QOL and pay? hahahaha good luck with that.
The issue I mentioned concerned QOL. Try to keep up!
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Old 01-01-2017, 03:33 PM
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Not for nothing, but AA weeded out some of the problem children from Envoy after they flowed. Why would this pilot, if he's as bad as you say, escape from training unscathed?
I'm sitting here hoping you are right. But I have already heard of people that can't pass upgrade training at their WO regional flow up to mainline due to their seniority. Maybe they've improved, or maybe they just sneak through the cracks. Who knows...
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Old 01-01-2017, 04:01 PM
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The issue I mentioned concerned QOL. Try to keep up!
Really? I can keep up, but if you think every airline doesn't have there bunch of idiots then maybe you're the .....................
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Old 01-01-2017, 04:11 PM
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Really? I can keep up, but if you think every airline doesn't have there bunch of idiots then maybe you're the .....................
There is a big difference between every airline having their* bunch of idiots (), versus an airline not interviewing or requiring any sort of merit from 75% of their incoming new hires.
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There is a big difference between every airline having their* bunch of idiots (), versus an airline not interviewing or requiring any sort of merit from 75% of their incoming new hires.
Merit? lol, they already work for basically the same company right? When someone buys a ticket on American and they fly the Eagle brand what's the difference? Especially even more so when it's a WO.

Don't worry you'll land a job at Delta, United, Southwest I'm sure.

It's amusing that the only people that complain about the flow are those that aren't part of it. I'm sure if AA came up and told you guys they wanted to set up a flow program you'd be doing backflips with joy.
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Merit? lol, they already work for basically the same company right? When someone buys a ticket on American and they fly the Eagle brand what's the difference? Especially even more so when it's a WO.

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Basically the same company?? Please tell me this is a joke.....
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Old 01-01-2017, 05:01 PM
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Merit? lol, they already work for basically the same company right? When someone buys a ticket on American and they fly the Eagle brand what's the difference? Especially even more so when it's a WO.

Don't worry you'll land a job at Delta, United, Southwest I'm sure.

It's amusing that the only people that complain about the flow are those that aren't part of it. I'm sure if AA came up and told you guys they wanted to set up a flow program you'd be doing backflips with joy.
Come on man, let's be real. To get a job at Envoy, PSA, or PDT you basically need 1000-1500 hours and a pulse. The interview process at any of the three WOed doesn't compare to the interview process at AA. My biggest problem with flow is exactly just that, you're getting a job which you did not interview for nor were selected/hired by AA. Their is no reason to lower hiring requirments at AA.

Pilots complain about flow because flow limits the possibility for off-the-street candidates.

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Old 01-01-2017, 05:09 PM
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Come on man, let's be real. To get a job at Envoy, PSA, or PDT you basically need 1000-1500 hours and a pulse. The interview process at any of the three WOed doesn't compare to the interview process at AA. My biggest problem with flow is exactly just that, you're getting a job you did not interview for nor were selected/hired by AA.
Well, won't AAG have 5-7 years worth of performance records? I rather see it as a 5-7 years long interview.
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Old 01-01-2017, 05:11 PM
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Come on man, let's be real. To get a job at Envoy, PSA, or PDT you basically need 1000-1500 hours and a pulse. The interview process at any of the three WOed doesn't compare to the interview process at AA. My biggest problem with flow is exactly just that, you're getting a job you did not interview for nor were selected/hired by AA.
I am a lurker here.

My take on the flow is that you are being interviewed by AA during the years of working for their WO. They have 5-10 years to watch you, and have all your records.

That being said does anyone know if AA can turn down an employee for fails or something else during their time at their WO?

Also, Piedmont is being selective right now. I was in the AA van with some people we were interviewing last month in CLT. They said we sent home quite a few people.
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Old 01-01-2017, 05:14 PM
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Well won't AAG have 5-7 years worth of performance records? I rather see it as a 5-7 years interview.
The problem is the flow isn't based on performance. That's why all the upgrade failures just sit as FOs until their flow number is called. So no, it is not a 5-7 year interview.
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