Air Wisconsin
#481
Ok, I'll bite. I haven't worked at AWAC for 5 years, happily at Jetblue. Let me tell you this... look at the industry. LOOK! When you work for an airline you get all google eyed about best case scenarios but really examine the industry and the fate of air wisconsin is plain as day. It will be done, kaput, 6 feet under, a goner, hasta la vista, dead as a doornail sooner rather then later. There is a chance that some semblance of the airline will be around in 5 years, but probably not. Something big, really big has to happen for them to remain at all relevant... think replace all 50 seats jets with embriars big, or CRJ-900... and then look and ask yourself do you see that happening at AWAC. You have 6 older men that own the company and made billions... why would they re-invest that money? The returns on regional jet flying are smaller then ever, they have no stock holders to pander to, so why do it?
When I was at AWAC I saw multiple united RFP's go up in smoke, the midwest RFP, and I'm sure countless others all failed. So next year when the leases start expiring what do you expect to happen? United MUST reduce 50 seat flying per the pilot contract in order to recieve more 70/90 seaters, American is capped, Delta certainly doesn't want them. They are un-economical aircraft that cost a lot to operate, and are being replaced ASAP. The contract and leases are expiring providing a no cost way for american to rid itself of aircraft it doesn't want.
This is no slam to the pilots, some of the best I have worked with, but stop seeing all the roses and look at the real future ahead.
When I was at AWAC I saw multiple united RFP's go up in smoke, the midwest RFP, and I'm sure countless others all failed. So next year when the leases start expiring what do you expect to happen? United MUST reduce 50 seat flying per the pilot contract in order to recieve more 70/90 seaters, American is capped, Delta certainly doesn't want them. They are un-economical aircraft that cost a lot to operate, and are being replaced ASAP. The contract and leases are expiring providing a no cost way for american to rid itself of aircraft it doesn't want.
This is no slam to the pilots, some of the best I have worked with, but stop seeing all the roses and look at the real future ahead.
#482
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2010
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I wouldn't put any stock in the rumor that 10 airplanes are being returned to the lease holder which is probably just a entity owned by the mystic six pack anyway.
Airways keeps asking AWAC to cover more flying BUT you can only do so much with 71 birds so I would say it is more likely that more AC show up on property.
I work here. I like it here and I have helped friends get jobs here. If you don't like it you can leave at anytime. Check your work rules, top tier health insurance, and 8% company 401K contribution at the door.
Airways keeps asking AWAC to cover more flying BUT you can only do so much with 71 birds so I would say it is more likely that more AC show up on property.
I work here. I like it here and I have helped friends get jobs here. If you don't like it you can leave at anytime. Check your work rules, top tier health insurance, and 8% company 401K contribution at the door.
#483
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Position: Slightly less broke side of RJ
Posts: 132
Not flame bait, just on honest question. I think all the points of why AWAC doesn't seem to make sense going forward without massive changes to buissness model, or some massive rabbit in the hat deal like the airways one in 05 are pretty reasonable comments. However...
If AWAC fell off the face of the earth in 2015 and 71 200s went to the desert who would cover the 12-15k departures per month?
AWAC may be private and thus can keep all plans a secret until the day of, but the rest of the regionals aren't. When would we start to see a ramp up in operations/announcement of such, in one of the other regionals to cover this feed and which regional is currently in the best to absorb it?
If AWAC fell off the face of the earth in 2015 and 71 200s went to the desert who would cover the 12-15k departures per month?
AWAC may be private and thus can keep all plans a secret until the day of, but the rest of the regionals aren't. When would we start to see a ramp up in operations/announcement of such, in one of the other regionals to cover this feed and which regional is currently in the best to absorb it?
#484
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 244
Not flame bait, just on honest question. I think all the points of why AWAC doesn't seem to make sense going forward without massive changes to buissness model, or some massive rabbit in the hat deal like the airways one in 05 are pretty reasonable comments. However...
If AWAC fell off the face of the earth in 2015 and 71 200s went to the desert who would cover the 12-15k departures per month?
AWAC may be private and thus can keep all plans a secret until the day of, but the rest of the regionals aren't. When would we start to see a ramp up in operations/announcement of such, in one of the other regionals to cover this feed and which regional is currently in the best to absorb it?
If AWAC fell off the face of the earth in 2015 and 71 200s went to the desert who would cover the 12-15k departures per month?
AWAC may be private and thus can keep all plans a secret until the day of, but the rest of the regionals aren't. When would we start to see a ramp up in operations/announcement of such, in one of the other regionals to cover this feed and which regional is currently in the best to absorb it?
#486
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 841
This coming from a guy who didn't make it to the interview. ..
#487
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Joined APC: Jun 2012
Position: CFIT cannot be logged as a landing?!
Posts: 142
#488
Banned
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,291
I didn't say when I was supposed to interview there.It was awhile back but yes they tried to send me standby and I never got there.
#489
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: rear GV
Posts: 294
idlethrust
On Reserve
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 12
Air wis offered me an interview a couple weeks ago.I could not get there due to the fact all the flights were full and I live in a major city.7 or 8 flights a day to PHL and 4 or 5 flown with rjs.I tried twice on two different days and could not get on any flights. Good luck with that s9 standby lol.The revenue standbys will constantly bump you off.
A while back is a couple weeks?? Go to mesa or brownstreak
On Reserve
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 12
Air wis offered me an interview a couple weeks ago.I could not get there due to the fact all the flights were full and I live in a major city.7 or 8 flights a day to PHL and 4 or 5 flown with rjs.I tried twice on two different days and could not get on any flights. Good luck with that s9 standby lol.The revenue standbys will constantly bump you off.
A while back is a couple weeks?? Go to mesa or brownstreak
#490
Banned
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,291
idlethrust
On Reserve
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 12
Air wis offered me an interview a couple weeks ago.I could not get there due to the fact all the flights were full and I live in a major city.7 or 8 flights a day to PHL and 4 or 5 flown with rjs.I tried twice on two different days and could not get on any flights. Good luck with that s9 standby lol.The revenue standbys will constantly bump you off.
A while back is a couple weeks?? Go to mesa or brownstreak
On Reserve
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 12
Air wis offered me an interview a couple weeks ago.I could not get there due to the fact all the flights were full and I live in a major city.7 or 8 flights a day to PHL and 4 or 5 flown with rjs.I tried twice on two different days and could not get on any flights. Good luck with that s9 standby lol.The revenue standbys will constantly bump you off.
A while back is a couple weeks?? Go to mesa or brownstreak
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