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Old 06-20-2018 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Knobcrk1
So you get 5k first month in class, 8k for prior type and 21k after ioe? Do you have to repay or are there any stipulations to these bonuses?
Yes! The fine print they don't tell you about is that if you accept the money up front, you are locked in for 2 years. You can accept or decline the initial bonus money. If you decline it, you will get paid on a later date after you have "earned" it. The good part is that you aren't locked in and free resign without repayment. If you accept the bonuses right away, you are required to repay a majority of the money if you resign prior to 2 years employment.
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Old 06-22-2018 | 02:27 AM
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If you accept the bonuses right away, you are required to repay a majority of the money if you resign prior to 2 years employment.

from Mirriam Webster: Definition of bonus
: something in addition to what is expected or strictly due: such as
a : money or an equivalent given in addition to an employee's usual compensation

So... it's not a bonus. It's an advance on future pay. Or... maybe they are under paying you up front?
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Old 06-22-2018 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by AV810
If you accept the bonuses right away, you are required to repay a majority of the money if you resign prior to 2 years employment.
They actually ask for the Pre-tax amount to be paid back!
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Old 06-22-2018 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by squib
They actually ask for the Pre-tax amount to be paid back!
Yup. That’s accurate. It’s on you to file an amended return with the IRS aid you find yourself in that position.
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Old 06-23-2018 | 07:27 AM
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Normally I just take the critical pay and not ask for a day-in-lue so I’m not sure how this works.

If I were to get a day-in-lue, how does the pay work? My JM day goes from critical to straight time (200% to 100%), right?

And I do or do not get any pay for the day-in-lue?
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Old 06-23-2018 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Soxfan1
Normally I just take the critical pay and not ask for a day-in-lue so I’m not sure how this works.

If I were to get a day-in-lue, how does the pay work? My JM day goes from critical to straight time (200% to 100%), right?

And I do or do not get any pay for the day-in-lue?
Jesus, read the union newsletter this was JUST covered because so many people don’t know how it works.

No. You do not “lose your critical pay.” You get paid the GREATER of:

1) the credit for your Junior Man at 200%
2) the credit value of your day in lieu

You are pay protected for any flying that they have to pull before/after the day in lieu to split you back into the trip.

EVERYONE SHOULD TAKE A DAY IN LIEU WHENEVER IT IS AN OPTION

If you want to work on you day in lieu, then pick something up at 200% or volunteer for another junior man. Which will result in another day in lieu and 200% pay.
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Old 06-23-2018 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by T28driver
Jesus, read the union newsletter this was JUST covered because so many people don’t know how it works.

No. You do not “lose your critical pay.” You get paid the GREATER of:

1) the credit for your Junior Man at 200%
2) the credit value of your day in lieu

You are pay protected for any flying that they have to pull before/after the day in lieu to split you back into the trip.

EVERYONE SHOULD TAKE A DAY IN LIEU WHENEVER IT IS AN OPTION

If you want to work on you day in lieu, then pick something up at 200% or volunteer for another junior man. Which will result in another day in lieu and 200% pay.
Thank you - appreciate the clarification.
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Old 06-23-2018 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by T28driver
Jesus, read the union newsletter this was JUST covered because so many people don’t know how it works.

No. You do not “lose your critical pay.” You get paid the GREATER of:

1) the credit for your Junior Man at 200%
2) the credit value of your day in lieu

You are pay protected for any flying that they have to pull before/after the day in lieu to split you back into the trip.

EVERYONE SHOULD TAKE A DAY IN LIEU WHENEVER IT IS AN OPTION

If you want to work on you day in lieu, then pick something up at 200% or volunteer for another junior man. Which will result in another day in lieu and 200% pay.
Take your JM day @ 200%. Add that to your monthly credit. Then when CS decides what day you want in lieu, subtract the value of that day from your new, updated credit.

If you are JM’ed for a min day, you’ll have 6 hrs credit for that day (3 hrs @ 200%). If you then get back a day worth 7 hrs, you just lost 1hr of pay. Unless you can pick up something on that day, your credit for the month will be less.

I would suggest only taking the day back if you can afford to lose the pay.

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Old 06-23-2018 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Inside DEENA
Take your JM day @ 200%. Add that to your monthly credit. Then when CS decides what day you want in lieu, subtract the value of that day from your new, updated credit.

If you are JM’ed for a min day, you’ll have 6 hrs credit for that day (3 hrs @ 200%). If you then get back a day worth 7 hrs, you just lost 1hr of pay. Unless you can pick up something on that day, your credit for the month will be less.

I would suggest only taking the day back if you can afford to lose the pay.

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Take the day in lieu and immediately pick the dropped trip back up at 150% or 200%. Or pick up a higher value trip if it exists. Unless of course you don't like extra money. Then don't take the day in lieu.
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Old 06-23-2018 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Inside DEENA
Take your JM day @ 200%. Add that to your monthly credit. Then when CS decides what day you want in lieu, subtract the value of that day from your new, updated credit.

If you are JM’ed for a min day, you’ll have 6 hrs credit for that day (3 hrs @ 200%). If you then get back a day worth 7 hrs, you just lost 1hr of pay. Unless you can pick up something on that day, your credit for the month will be less.

I would suggest only taking the day back if you can afford to lose the pay.

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THIS IS FALSE

In this example you would get paid for the 7 hours of credit, not 6.

You get paid the GREATER of the two days (JM credit vs. Day in Lieu credit).

ALWAYS TAKE YOUR DAY IN LIEU.
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