Are people still failing orals for not memorizing the entire IAC like it was when i was there 3 years ago? I fully agree that coming prepared to a training event should be expected of anyone but of these 50% failures, what percentage of those are for dumb stuff like that? No other carriers ask a lot of these dumb questions like awac still does. Yet the people I fly with at 9e, albeit sometimes kinda green are good qualified pilots that I’m comfortable letting them be at the controls. There needs to be standards but when you have a 50% washout rate and other places are around 10-20, and on top of that there is a staffing issue. You’d think a memo would go out telling people like JO to cool it with their ego trips.

 

Anyone have any interview prep or test questions for Air Wisconsin? I'm retiring from the military shortly and am looking to apply there. Also, does anyone know if new hires are getting their new MKE domicile? Thanks!

 

There is not a 50% failure rate. And the washout (newhire to signed off to the line) is 81% pass. Hope this clears it up. You do not memorize the whole IAC only the memory items. You need to show working knowledge of the rest.

 

Interview prep? Be yourself. Know how to read an approach plate and explain precision and non precision approaches. Honestly that's your best bet. Smile. Conversate with your fellow interviewees and interview team. Have your logbook in good readable order. You'll be fine.

You want MKE? You got it!

 

2 or 3 pilots in my interview session a couple months ago in Chicago.

 

Just out of curiousity does that 81% number include people that resign prior to a checkride failure occurring?

 

Overall (class to class can vary) I have been told that this year 81% of all newhires pass to IOE and get signed off. So, I guess the answer is yes. It's what I've been told when I asked directly.

 

When I talk to new hires, most of the class gets through. One guy recently did have a high number fail out in his class. The other variant is I fly with a lot of fo's simply going elsewhere. Many retired military headed to the majors. Some just don't like the qol.

 

I was going to post the same thing but I have been waiting to get some creditable info. I directly asked an assistant chief and a LCA who does the sims - both said it’s about 20% washout rate.

The misconception is when the pay day hotline comes out and has a high number of 27xxx numbers on the resignation list. People assume they are all training resignations.

They are not all failures/washouts. We are hiring 10-20% retired military pilots who are moving on once they get 300-500 hours of recent currency. We sent about 5 to Delta in the past 2 months alone. Plus the low 27xxx numbers have been on property 12-15 months. Those are not washouts. Even the mid 27xxx numbers are 7-10 months in. Even with extra sims, a check ride failure, retraining, second check ride and say 4-5 IOE trips and not able to get signed off- it would only take 6 - 7 months. So they may not be washouts either at this point.

 

Which in its own way may be even more telling, at least for the non-military types. Those with little seniority at stake finding it preferable to go elsewhere or quit the industry altogether rather than continue to work at Air Wisconsin.

That's not newbie's washing out of training, that's trained personnel making the decision it's a crappy place to work and they are going to go somewhere else.

That's scarcely reassuring to the newbie looking to apply.