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Old 09-23-2014 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JerkStore
So in an ALPA email, the ARW MEC has teamed with FAPA.aero to help AWAC pilots plan for their careers beyond AWAC. Just to stir the rumor pot a bit, do you think this has anything to do with AWAC feeling a bit guilty for putting 850+ pilots on the streets when they close their doors?
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Old 09-23-2014 | 04:01 PM
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Maybe the union actually wants to help its pilots move on. Even the president of the company tells each class that he knows that most pilots are at a regional to build time and he/AWAC has no problem with that.

Its a bit of a stretch to say the job skills effort is directly related to speculative thoughts about the future of the company. Any pilot at any airline should be constantly working on their interview skills and have up to date resumes at all times. You never know when that interview call will come or you are downsized...are you ready?

Having been downsized before, you can waste weeks getting up to speed on a job search and this time its costing you your savings.

-IOE should last no more than about 3-4 trips. (30 days) Some have taken longer but that is typical.

-As mentioned by others here, those who washout were likely given every opportunity to succeed. AWAC historically has given extra time to those who need it and have a good attitude and work ethic.
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Old 09-23-2014 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Texandriver84
How long is initial training?
I started training middle of this past march and was finished with IOE by the end of May. I didn't need any additional training and I had a 10 day break between systems and sim. I also only needed 2 trips on OE.
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Old 09-23-2014 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FODhopper
Maybe the union actually wants to help its pilots move on. Even the president of the company tells each class that he knows that most pilots are at a regional to build time and he/AWAC has no problem with that.

Its a bit of a stretch to say the job skills effort is directly related to speculative thoughts about the future of the company. Any pilot at any airline should be constantly working on their interview skills and have up to date resumes at all times. You never know when that interview call will come or you are downsized...are you ready?

Having been downsized before, you can waste weeks getting up to speed on a job search and this time its costing you your savings.

-IOE should last no more than about 3-4 trips. (30 days) Some have taken longer but that is typical.

-As mentioned by others here, those who washout were likely given every opportunity to succeed. AWAC historically has given extra time to those who need it and have a good attitude and work ethic.

3-4 trips?!?!

Good gawd! A four day and a two day should be plenty for IOE. 30 hrs or so, done.
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Old 09-23-2014 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JerkStore
So in an ALPA email, the ARW MEC has teamed with FAPA.aero to help AWAC pilots plan for their careers beyond AWAC. Just to stir the rumor pot a bit, do you think this has anything to do with AWAC feeling a bit guilty for putting 850+ pilots on the streets when they close their doors?
They did a similar thing years ago, under a "Do I Have a Future Here?" campaign.

https://web.archive.org/web/20080614...uturehere.org/
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Old 09-23-2014 | 06:38 PM
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Four weeks in Appleton, approx a week off then three weeks in CLT is what I saw. Of course IOE after that. This is current as of this summer.
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Old 09-23-2014 | 08:34 PM
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Have a friend who washed out of a 121 training program back in 05 and airline is now gone ( washed out of sim not check ride). Would that still be on his record! He wanting to reapply now that he up to speed on his instruments again
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Old 09-24-2014 | 09:48 AM
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AWAC bubbas: I have an upcoming interview and I was hoping to bounce a few q's off you.

How are the reserve schedules? ... Is there a long/short call reserve at AWAC?

How much flying could a new hire sitting reserve see in a typical month?

Of course everything is subject to change, but in general, could a new hire hold a line within 6 months?

Thanks in advance for info. Cheers!
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Old 09-24-2014 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rdc034
AWAC bubbas: I have an upcoming interview and I was hoping to bounce a few q's off you.

How are the reserve schedules? ... Is there a long/short call reserve at AWAC?

How much flying could a new hire sitting reserve see in a typical month?

Of course everything is subject to change, but in general, could a new hire hold a line within 6 months?

Thanks in advance for info. Cheers!
We mostly have short call (2 hour call out) and some long call.

My best month on RSV was about 95 hours. My average is around 60.

Ive been on the line since the end of May and I'm close to holding a line. Could probably hold one if I were willing to go to ORF.

Hope this help. Great pilot group over here.
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Old 09-24-2014 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mm1989
We mostly have short call (2 hour call out) and some long call.

My best month on RSV was about 95 hours. My average is around 60.

Ive been on the line since the end of May and I'm close to holding a line. Could probably hold one if I were willing to go to ORF.

Hope this help. Great pilot group over here.
Thanks mm1989. I appreciate the info.
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