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10-04-2014, 06:39 PM
#861
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Originally Posted by nuball5
Nope....any anyone that thinks they do is lying to themselves.
10-04-2014, 06:55 PM
#862
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Originally Posted by HighFly
negotiations with AA don't seem to go be going very smoothly and it doesn't look like anyone else is interested (DL, UAL)
Not sure where you're getting your info. I know AAG has asked us to take on more flying recently. Like I said......no one knows what'll happen. The 2015 date has been hanging over this pilot group's head for years now and frankly I'm sick and tired of hearing about it....as most are. Whatever happens will happen.
10-04-2014, 08:01 PM
#863
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Originally Posted by nuball5
Not sure where you're getting your info. I know AAG has asked us to take on more flying recently. Like I said......no one knows what'll happen. The 2015 date has been hanging over this pilot group's head for years now and frankly I'm sick and tired of hearing about it....as most are. Whatever happens will happen.
Good Luck.... I know during a Crew News someone ask Parker about the AirWisconsin Contract. His response was, "If I could, I would've already ripped it up yesterday."
I'm sure he'll fax a number to fly for American and it will be right in line with Envoy, PSA, and Piedmont. He's not going to pay more when he has the WO'ed Airlines to do it cheaper. FUBAR
10-04-2014, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by billyho
Good Luck.... I know during a Crew News someone ask Parker about the AirWisconsin Contract. His response was, "If I could, I would've already ripped it up yesterday."
I'm sure he'll fax a number to fly for American and it will be right in line with Envoy, PSA, and Piedmont. He's not going to pay more when he has the WO'ed Airlines to do it cheaper. FUBAR
I'm sure he'll fax a number to fly for American and it will be right in line with Envoy, PSA, and Piedmont. He's not going to pay more when he has the WO'ed Airlines to do it cheaper. FUBAR
10-04-2014, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Moonwolf
Yeah that's old news. Good news is he has already found a cheaper option. Awac won't be taking any Psa/pdt deal.
Then I'm sure the contract won't be renewed. Have they even started painting any planes??
10-05-2014, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by billyho
Then I'm sure the contract won't be renewed. Have they even started painting any planes??
Well if PSA and PDT can double their size then probably not. But I have my doubts that they will (reference "PSA new-hire failure rate" thread). Flying to Knoxville for the first time in four years, so that should tell you something. There's also a bunch of stations within the AAG system that can only handle 50-seaters.
10-05-2014, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by nuball5
Well if PSA and PDT can double their size then probably not. But I have my doubts that they will (reference "PSA new-hire failure rate" thread). Flying to Knoxville for the first time in four years, so that should tell you something. There's also a bunch of stations within the AAG system that can only handle 50-seaters.
That other thread is off.... More envoy guys playing scare tactics on new hire potential applicants. PSA in my time there had one of the best training programs. Doubt it's changed much as many are still instructors there.
10-05-2014, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by meyers9163
That really means nothing. AWAC came into Dayton a lot in 2006-2007. Especially from DCA, LGA and would occasionally do a weekend to Charlotte. It has nothing to do with that. PDT has flown to TYS for years. Mesa did too.... See a trend
Well PSA and PDT are supposed to double in size, while AWAC is supposed to die off soon....so actually no I don't see a trend. This isn't 2007. If Parker wants AWAC to no longer fly for AAG, he better start taking some of our 500 departures/day soon. Not saying it won't happen.
I'm sure PSA has excellent instructors. I think it is more with the applicants they are getting, than the quality of the training department. It's only going to get harder from here on out...when you have new-hires attempting to upgrade in a year, when in reality they should be in the right-seat for at least three years.
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10-05-2014, 02:00 PM
#870
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Originally Posted by billyho
I agree AAG needs the lift. But I'm sure Parker will want cost cuts. If he doesn't get them he'll drop them or only ask to keep maybe half the fleet.
Should know something soon.
Should know something soon.
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