What's the Plan?
11-22-2017 | 11:22 AM
#61
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Ironically if Alaska Air Group would have just agreed to guarantee Delta the feed it needed via code share to build a Far East hub out of Seattle, they'd probably have grown by 30% over the last few years as Delta became increasingly reliant on AK's feed. Instead they said shove off and the race is on to build a hub suitable to feed international from SEA. Probably works for mgmt's interest, but the pilots.... time will tell.
11-22-2017 | 03:24 PM
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Ironically if Alaska Air Group would have just agreed to guarantee Delta the feed it needed via code share to build a Far East hub out of Seattle, they'd probably have grown by 30% over the last few years as Delta became increasingly reliant on AK's feed. Instead they said shove off and the race is on to build a hub suitable to feed international from SEA. Probably works for mgmt's interest, but the pilots.... time will tell.
While the DL relationship is now over, the organic growth alone at AS since DL entered the SEA market as a full-fledged hub operation has more than offset the loss of the DL revenue, and AS has added other partners since then, making Mileage Plan more attractive, not less.
I'd suggest that all that growth is in the best interest of everyone, pilots included. But that's just me...
11-22-2017 | 03:33 PM
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Given the amount of revenue coming in via codeshares and partnerships at that time (keep in mind, DL demanded AS sever ALL their codeshare and partner relationships and remain solely wedded to DL) the ask from DL was one that only benefited them, and would have made AS far more vulnerable to no longer being a standalone entity long-term.
While the DL relationship is now over, the organic growth alone at AS since DL entered the SEA market as a full-fledged hub operation has more than offset the loss of the DL revenue, and AS has added other partners since then, making Mileage Plan more attractive, not less.
I'd suggest that all that growth is in the best interest of everyone, pilots included. But that's just me...
While the DL relationship is now over, the organic growth alone at AS since DL entered the SEA market as a full-fledged hub operation has more than offset the loss of the DL revenue, and AS has added other partners since then, making Mileage Plan more attractive, not less.
I'd suggest that all that growth is in the best interest of everyone, pilots included. But that's just me...
11-22-2017 | 07:00 PM
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But that helps AAG’s bottom line, doesn’t it? And not us.
When we get to that point, just remember one thing: he who dares, wins.
And if you’re not willing to burn the place to the ground, you lose.
Because management is willing, and they assume we’re chumps.
When we get to that point, just remember one thing: he who dares, wins.
And if you’re not willing to burn the place to the ground, you lose.
Because management is willing, and they assume we’re chumps.
11-22-2017 | 07:15 PM
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11-22-2017 | 07:28 PM
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I always thought that anything that helped AAG ultimately helped the employees as well, especially considering how many employees 401(k) plans involve AAG stock.
As much as I love working for AS, I'd also like to retire someday, and an "I'll burn this place down!" mentality doesn't help advance career stability for our co-workers. Or our customers, for that matter.
As much as I love working for AS, I'd also like to retire someday, and an "I'll burn this place down!" mentality doesn't help advance career stability for our co-workers. Or our customers, for that matter.
11-22-2017 | 08:40 PM
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Ironically if Alaska Air Group would have just agreed to guarantee Delta the feed it needed via code share to build a Far East hub out of Seattle, they'd probably have grown by 30% over the last few years as Delta became increasingly reliant on AK's feed. Instead they said shove off and the race is on to build a hub suitable to feed international from SEA. Probably works for mgmt's interest, but the pilots.... time will tell.
11-22-2017 | 10:20 PM
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If the lower-paying companies are eliminated, the average compensation goes up. This is good for labor.
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