[QUOTE=Tailstand;2572338]Just for clarification, that is the answer to my post, not my quote!

I too did 8 AD and 15 Reserve. And way more combat time Reserve. And if you threw out the AD nonproductive days, I worked almost as many productive days per month in the later.

 

Actually, he is as designated Captain. That goes for the rest of the crew as well.

 

I didn't see where he admitted taking her to his room.

 

Being the PIC on an aircraft with a crew and the PIC relationship to that crew isn't the same as being a supervisor to a subordinate (in terms of improper relationships, sexual harassment, etc.).

He has no influence to ply in terms of promotions, job performance reviews, etc. that would put him in a position of authority he could abuse. When the a/c blocks in and the flight is over, he's just another employee on a layover.

 

Though if he's writing her a probation report, that could be a problem. Hmm....wonder how that report would go as far as "Observation of Layover and/or Off Duty Behavior", or whatever Alaska's equivalent is. Well above before she reported him, well below afterwards?

 

Basically what I figured. They both go out, get smashed, and bust company rules on alcohol consumption. They get caught, he comes clean to the company, and they get deadheaded back which is bad, but not as bad as showing up to the airplane in violation. Because Pina is on probation, she comes up with this "I was drugged" story to save her ass.

Occams razor at work, in order to believe the drugging, you would have to make a bunch of assumptions to get there, while the story that they were both drinking, got drunk off their asses, violated company policy on alcohol, and then, because she is on probation, this drugging story was concocted to keep her job makes the most sense.

Now their behavior while they were smashed still needs to be investigated in regards to inappropriate hehavior, but the idea that she was drugged will be tossed unless she can come up with a some kind of solid evidence.

 

Whoa!!!, back up there. I don't know that we *do* know that. Excargodog, do you have a link to a source which shows him admitting to that? I've followed this pretty closely and I haven't seen anything of the sort. It's certainly possible I've missed it, if so, I'd be interested to see exactly what he has said.

The thing about this deal is that until this latest lie detector results announcement, the *only* bit of information I have seen whcih didn't come from Pina was mention in an AK airlines statement at time the lawsuit was filed that the captain in question remained on leave and of course the obligatory statement that "We take these issues seriously" . other than that, every single bit of information I've seen so far has come from Pina, either from her court filings, or in statements she has made to the media. Yes people speak of her allegations like they are established fact.

Like I said, it's certainly possible I missed a statement issued by the captain. If so, I'd be interested to read that if you can provide a link. Failing that, I don't believe that he has admitted anything.

 

Well, no. It is not to excuse behavior, because we don't know what behavior occurred, we only have allegations of behavior from one party. The purpose of the flag waving was to bolster his credibility in the face of *allegations* whcih may or may not be true.

 

Probably not true. Alaskas’ FOM designates the captain to be in charge of the crew from the time the captain shows up to work until the time the captain leaves on the last day. I think it might be gray if she was an FA and they came in on different flights or leave on different flights, but I think it is pretty clear that a CA and an FO on the same pairing the CA would be considered the supervisor in this situation at Alaska.

 

Missing the point of the FOM: On a layover, at Alaska Airlines, there is no chain of command. Each employee is expected to behave in a manner that does not bring bad light upon Alaska Airlines. Additionally, there is no expectation of supervisory behavior/subordinate behavior at all! The Captain is in charge of a very narrow slice of the operation at Alaska Airlines. It begins and ends at the aircraft door and it only relates to the operation of that aircraft on that flight.