This is the reality at US airlines. Despite what some CA's may think or even what the FOM may say, there are really no hard limits on "fraternization" off the clock in this industry (except for IOE, that's pretty clearcut).

 

This is what is going to fry this Capt, regardless of the facts of the case. Bad publicity is the 3rd rail for AS. F/As have been fired for pictures posted on Facebook if they've identified themselves as AS F/As.

 

Thank you for posting information about the “other side” of the story. It’s devastating that sensationalism takes precedence over facts these days. Allegations of this magnitude are life altering to those involved and biased, one sided reporting, is meaningless from my perspective. I don’t think under-reporting or refusing to report all details does anything to help Pina’s case at all. On the contrary, the gaps of information and big picture here seem very suspicious.I’m hopeful for a just outcome. I also hope that if these allegations are false, that we will hear something about that.

 

Lot of man bros in this thread and part 1. So many coming to his defense with the questioning of her account of events.

 

Your point? Innocent until proven guilty, right? Because of that ANY accusation should be scrutinized. Not to mention there is no evidence of his guilt other than her word against his. If I were in his shoes I would hope my brethren would support me as well. Not to mention the CA in question has a spotless record and no previous history or reputation to support her accusation. However, her story does cast reasonable doubt on his guilt. Not to mention she absolutely has a motive to cover her ass being on probation and being taken off a trip for a work rule violation.

It's apparent that you are in the group of "she said it so he must be guilty." That's the problem in this day in age. Men are automatically guilty until proven innocent in the pubic eye. That's not fair. If he did it then he absolutely should be punished. The issue is at this point in time there is no way to prove that he is guilty of anything. Yet he's still paying the price.

Don't forget, you are one accusation away from being in his shoes.

 

Just in case you missed it.

 

And what does the video tape prove? Does it show the Captain doing anything to her drink? No. If you want to argue that he was trying to kiss her and she wasn't receptive it's moot. She still ended up in his room. The only thing she can argue is that she was drugged and that can't be proven beyond anything more than an assumption at this point.

If the video was conclusive evidence the Captain would have already been terminated for it and most likely criminal charges would have already been filed. Neither has happened.

 

Excuse them for having the temerity to presume innocence.

 

If she were raped, why isn’t she pressing charges? It is a crime, is it not? Did the police decline? Did the prosecutors?

The same thing seems to happen on college campuses. The college shouldn’t even be involved. It’s a crime. (That said, I think we all have an idea why colleges choose to steer these events into their jurisdiction.)

 

"Pressing" charges is commonly misunderstood. There are very few jurisdiction in the US where a civilian can initiate criminal charges, and for very good reasons. In most places it's up to the DA, and they typically don't prosecute losing cases (which this one might be due to lack of evidence). Usually all you can do is ask the DA to press charges, and they decide.

Many colleges employ their own police, so that puts them right in the middle of it. Even the ones with political agendas are caught between protecting their students and respecting the rights of an accused. But fundamentally... the standard of evidence is high in criminal cases, but lower in civil cases. Expelling an accused student would fall under civil realm, with a reasonably lower standard.