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Old 11-03-2018, 10:20 PM
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Without question. The silver lining in the “Blackout Betty” dark ugly cloud. Layovers are a solo experience...I now prefer it to the old way....Here is to hoping that the law suit is long, loud and ugly. And that in addition to the multi million dollar settlement it requires Brad and Ben to make a public apology
 
Old 11-03-2018, 11:59 PM
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It'll never make it to court. The Anglers will settle...they always do and always have. Just go back to the female Capt. who sued for a "hostile work environment" because she claimed she found porn in the cockpit.

Paul will get some money but he won't get his job back.

I know where he can get a home based flying gig as a direct entry Captain if he's interested.
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Old 11-04-2018, 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Packrat View Post
It'll never make it to court. The Anglers will settle...they always do and always have. Just go back to the female Capt. who sued for a "hostile work environment" because she claimed she found porn in the cockpit.

Paul will get some money but he won't get his job back.

I know where he can get a home based flying gig as a direct entry Captain if he's interested.
Let’s hope he doesn’t cave on principle alone. The money in damages, lost wages, back pay and the smirk on his face every time he comes to work will be priceless.
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Old 11-04-2018, 01:05 AM
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It's an interesting commentary on today's airline hiring scene that someone could get fired from an airline after having 2 alcohol related "events" on layovers, within one year, file a lawsuit with fraudulent rape accusations, and still get hired as a direct entry captain at a feeder airline. Who at Empire airlines said: " Yeah, this is a pilot we want to roll the dice on ..." ????
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Old 11-04-2018, 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
The comments quoted were early on when the identity of the accused was not even known and when the claim being made was of a long career ar Alaska tacked on to a 20 year Air Force career, not a 20 year Reserve career running currently with a career at Alaska - leading to an erroneous assessment of the man's age. Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

What I have now posted was THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY and it was posted without editorial comment. It makes it a whole lot easier to assess a situation when BOTH sides tell their story.
Mindless character assaination comes to mind. A reasonable person has all their facts, concerning the case, before pounding damning comments on the key board when they have ALL THE FACTS, wouldn’t you agree. The Nancy Grace Show comes to mind... after the irreparable damage is done to a suspect, the old MEA CULPA card is thrown out and the supposedly accused miscreant becomes the victim and is labeled for life.

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Old 11-04-2018, 05:03 AM
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I don't know how she or anyone else who falsely accuses another of such a heinous crime can live with themselves. I hope she's treated like the pariah she is for the rest of her life and gets help for her obvious problems.
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Old 11-04-2018, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by LNL76 View Post
I don't know how she or anyone else who falsely accuses another of such a heinous crime can live with themselves. I hope she's treated like the pariah she is for the rest of her life and gets help for her obvious problems.


Was it proved she falsely accused him? I haven’t followed this story.
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Old 11-04-2018, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF View Post
Was it proved she falsely accused him? I haven’t followed this story.
Here ya go.


https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...e-rape-claims/


https://www.foxnews.com/travel/alask...e-metoo-claims
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Old 11-04-2018, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by LNL76 View Post
I don't know how she or anyone else who falsely accuses another of such a heinous crime can live with themselves. I hope she's treated like the pariah she is for the rest of her life and gets help for her obvious problems.
Sadly, the real victims of actions such as these are women who have legitimate claims, and, to a lessor extent, society as a whole. Recent high profile cases involving entertainment/media moguls, members of the Senate, House, Executive, and finally, the Legislative Branch, combined with events involving a local, personal and/or professional nature have ensured uber bland, safe, distant and sterile behavior from men who have been told to "Just shut up and step up. Do the right thing for a change." https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...lieve_her.html

In drop-jaw fashion, our elected political leaders are informing us that Due Process, arguably the cornerstone of American jurisprudence, only applies in civil/criminal cases. A 35 year old, unverifiable, completely unsubstantiated, uncorroborated vague accusation, mysteriously leaked after hearings were closed, with no date, location, or witnesses, stalled and actually came within 2 votes of ending a Supreme Court nomination (2 other sexual assault survivors that came out of the wood work are now under criminal investigation for false testimony). The damage to the Justice's reputation, family and personal life, and the impact to us all, are merely acceptable collateral damage in today's weaponized #metoo movement. You can't make this sh!t up.

Unfortunately, these aren't the only landmines we face; we've witnessed countless mis-steps involving cultural, racial and other 'sensitivities' that have also ended people's careers at ALL levels. A slip of the tongue, an inadvertent misinterpretation, even the wrong Halloween costume, can land anyone in the unemployment line.

Only time will tell how these events will affect the way we interact as a whole in the long term. I can only speak for myself, friends and associates, but suffice to say behavior and conversation in the workplace have been severely constrained and, in my case, permanently altered. I used to enjoy the banter at work; now I keep my thoughts and comments private. What was once considered paranoid behavior is now considered prudent.

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Old 11-04-2018, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by captjns View Post
Mindless character assaination comes to mind. A reasonable person has all their facts, concerning the case, before pounding damning comments on the key board when they have ALL THE FACTS, wouldn’t you agree. The Nancy Grace Show comes to mind... after the irreparable damage is done to a suspect, the old MEA CULPA card is thrown out and the supposedly accused miscreant becomes the victim and is labeled for life.
yup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCTREqf62Ck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g

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