Heard it’s already worked out. Integration based on our individual DOH 😱

If we merge with anyone we will do just fine. You are comparing us to two carriers that were in bankruptcy... one was TU. None of us have anything to worry about. In the unlikely event something goes down, we will all be just fine.

 

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Whether or not the MAX will be a capable airplane is not even up for debate, it will be just fine, despite it being an antique. What is up for debate is the willingness of the flying public to:

A.) Get back on the MAX and
B.) Get back on any 737 should another one crash anywhere in the world.

Regardless of how ill-informed the public is on any issue a perceived problem is still a problem and the MAX has an enormous publicity problem.

I don’t care if Boeing has sold 10 million 737s. Out of greed and arrogance a blind eye was turned to a KNOWN issue and attempts were made to cover it up. Ford Pinto of airliners, absolutely. Unless an airline is desperate why would they even take a chance having a fleet consisting of 100% MAX aircraft?

I wasn’t working questioning your motives with my original post but
but as far as your comment regarding former Virgin pilots I’d check my inferiority complex at the door and stop assuming. I’m neither Legacy Alaska nor Virgin so I’d stop riding my high horse under low branches. I’ve yet to peddle “inside” information on this forum only to gaslight those that call into question the information after it was disproven.

With regards to your brown-nosing management I’m sure you’re loved on the executive floor. If those two individuals are the best and the brightest in aviation what are they doing at Alaska?

Be well sir and my best for your contract negotiations.

 

I always wonder that too. Why are the best guys in the business working at a regional airline? Surely Delta, American, United or an overseas airline would throw money at these geniuses to get them to come over and run their business as well as they run Alaska.
Or is it because these guys aren’t the best, and the other airlines already have the best. Maybe that’s why the other airlines are in the position they are in and we are a regional that’s hung in for 87 years.

 

The best and the brightest... in their price range...

 

You and your three posts only prove my point, arrogant and clueless. I will forward your vast understandings as to what planes the flying public will and will not go on to GK. I bet his board and he would be shocked to know how close their 30 billion dollar company teeters to insolvency!

With an eye like yours and all your potential, I am sure you are days away from your first CEO post!

 

I personally think you're exactly correct. In fact, if the forum remembers, I called the fact that the Bus would be gone as the leases expire the day the merger was announced.

I know you guys love your Bus (as a passenger I prefer it as well!) but Alaska management discovered the value of a single fleet about 20 years ago. There's a reason the 737 is the world's best selling airliner. The Angle Lake boys are just clever enough to realize a pretty substantial discount on their upcoming order due to the MCAS controversy.

They're pretty good at striking while the iron is hot. Never underestimate the abilities of Brad Tilden when it comes to making and/or keeping money for AS. He's always had a particular genius in that arena.

 

Maybe its because they make plenty of money here and prefer the QOL provided by living in SEA. There are plenty of AS pilots who feel the same way.

Remember that Mark Few turned down a raft of multi-million dollar college coaching opportunities to stay at Gonzaga because his family preferred living in Spokane.

If I was in the Angle Lake shoes I'd rather live in SEA than DFW, ORD or ATL as well.

 

They used to say the same thing when the MD was going away. However, I guarantee you that 95% of the flying public can't tell the difference between a 737, a Bus or an E-190. Unless it has twin aisles, its all the same to Joe and Jane public.

As long as the plane gets there within 15 minutes of the published schedule and the F/As provide decent service the public could give a Shiite about what kind of plane it is. Given the collective American attention span they'll forget about the MAX issues as soon as the cancellations go away.

 

Probably very true.

My whole point before the name calling began was how prudent do we find it that any company (not necessarily Alaska or Southwest) would bet the entire future of their enterprise on an airplane with a blatantly tainted reputation. None of us (well maybe a few) would invest our entire savings in any one stock, let alone go Vegas and bet the thing on black.

 

This whole scenario played with many parallels with the rudder servo issue. How many 73's have been sold since then? Lots.

Internet/social media does play a role in public perception today. But it will quickly move on to the next bright shiny object in due course, taking all the lemmings with it.