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ShyGuy 06-27-2020 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by pipewrench (Post 3081900)
For a commuter unfriendly company, this is very unfortunate. I can see SFO turning into SAN

Still mainline flights coming through, but no pilot base. LAX would then become crazy senior. Even the last bid SEA CA went junior to LAX. If you close out both SF and LA 320, Boeing LAX will become the most senior base for holding a position.

pipewrench 06-27-2020 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3081907)
Still mainline flights coming through, but no pilot base. LAX would then become crazy senior. Even the last bid SEA CA went junior to LAX. If you close out both SF and LA 320, Boeing LAX will become the most senior base for holding a position.

Chaz base will be Junior for sure

MiLtoMajor123 06-27-2020 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by echelon (Post 3081025)
Someone else can do the real math but just for illustrative purposes... doesn't paying 1000 people 50hrs/month over a given time period very roughly equate to paying 666.66 (repeating of course) people the full 75? Hence ~333 people saved from furlough?

I think because the most junior people get furloughed first it would actually save more than 333 jobs since they are lower on the pay scale. So I would think yes.....1000 peeps on incentive lines saves more than 333 jobs logically speaking. But again who knows how many butts they need in seats given how dynamic the situation is.

NewGuy01 06-27-2020 06:03 PM

Wait. The situation is dynamic?


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OTZeagle1 06-28-2020 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by pipewrench (Post 3081845)
Looks like he was right again

I can never ever ever be right, in fact I am always wrong. I have stopped posting as I was asked by a union leader to back off and give them time... I respect this individual a lot, so this is what I am choosing to do. Nothing has changed 750-1000 Is the needed number for the fall... Nothing new here, I told everyone we needed approximately 1900 pilots for the fall, 2400 for the summer. I dropped the nutz months ago, and nothing has changed. Remember how long ago I posted this, I know a clock is right 2x a day... Always wrong, I know, I know...
Single fleet is done... I know, I am always wrong... looks like fall of 2022 we will have ZERO Airbus in our fleet. This is no news to Shyguy or newguy, I apologize for posting. Back to the regular guys posting nonsense, guesses, stupidity, dreams, delusions, and hallucinations.

NewGuy01 06-28-2020 12:45 PM

Personally, I’d be pretty embarrassed and also concerned for a lot of reasons if the union was calling me out in person and also during communications as well.

Maybe you should take the hint?


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HulkaBurger 06-28-2020 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 3082565)
I can never ever ever be right, in fact I am always wrong. I have stopped posting as I was asked by a union leader to back off and give them time... I respect this individual a lot, so this is what I am choosing to do. Nothing has changed 750-1000 Is the needed number for the fall... Nothing new here, I told everyone we needed approximately 1900 pilots for the fall, 2400 for the summer. I dropped the nutz months ago, and nothing has changed. Remember how long ago I posted this, I know a clock is right 2x a day... Always wrong, I know, I know...
Single fleet is done... I know, I am always wrong... looks like fall of 2022 we will have ZERO Airbus in our fleet. This is no news to Shyguy or newguy, I apologize for posting. Back to the regular guys posting nonsense, guesses, stupidity, dreams, delusions, and hallucinations.

You're still the same thing you've always been.

A nobody with a desperate, DESPERATE need to be somebody.

Donkey22 06-28-2020 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by HulkaBurger (Post 3082607)
You're still the same thing you've always been.

A nobody with a desperate, DESPERATE need to be somebody.


Maybe a Chamber of Commerce position for Mr(s)OTZ? With the hopes of a City Council seat? (S)He could feel the power of influencing the 2021 parking meter rates. Or the days when the Christmas lights go up. The list goes on...

ShyGuy 06-28-2020 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 3082565)
I can never ever ever be right, in fact I am always wrong. I have stopped posting as I was asked by a union leader to back off and give them time... I respect this individual a lot, so this is what I am choosing to do. Nothing has changed 750-1000 Is the needed number for the fall... Nothing new here, I told everyone we needed approximately 1900 pilots for the fall, 2400 for the summer. I dropped the nutz months ago, and nothing has changed. Remember how long ago I posted this, I know a clock is right 2x a day... Always wrong, I know, I know...
Single fleet is done... I know, I am always wrong... looks like fall of 2022 we will have ZERO Airbus in our fleet. This is no news to Shyguy or newguy, I apologize for posting. Back to the regular guys posting nonsense, guesses, stupidity, dreams, delusions, and hallucinations.



When did I ever say the Airbuses were here to stay? :confused:

Wingnutt 06-28-2020 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by NewGuy01 (Post 3082572)
Personally, I’d be pretty embarrassed and also concerned for a lot of reasons if the union was calling me out in person and also during communications as well.

Maybe you should take the hint?


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We should all be embarrassed. I think its very telling the union knows this guy/gal, contacts this individual, briefs them on whatever and still this nonsense persists. Pathetic that this person mouths off on this forum in the fashion they do and equally the union seemingly has no recourse.

I mean in the end who in world gives a flip what this person has to say.


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