Mea25000

It will be full! My gang and a Good looking First Officer that just dodged his first furlough and his wife! ���������� 10-11

OTZeagle1

Ha flushed out! I can’t wait 👍... Hulk may be stopping by too, just so you know

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They can hold out, then QX would just fall out of the deal. Then AAG can sell the Q400s and transfer the E175s to the newly merged company, or just sell the whole subsidiary to SKW or someone else, or dissolve it. I’m sure that would be a lot better for those hold outs. The hypothetical proposal I made is still way better for career expectations than they would have staying at QX for a career. Not sure if there is history or precedent for a regional/subsidiary merging with a company that doesn’t allow it to exist...and I hope we don’t press to test.

ImperialxRat

It had been a few weeks since we had a new merger rumor thread, so nice job. Things are getting back to normal I see.

HulkaBurger

We pass every day. You just don't know it. But I do. I just laugh.

Who's the internet tough guy now?

What a clown. 🤣

rickair7777

QX could well be the spoiler, at least in the near-term since their assets aren't worth much in a covid-induced market glut. Although since they are owned by AAG it's not like they'd have to consider QX shareholders.

OO is probably done buying other regionals, they got burned twice and a very senior union regional (that already resents them) is the last thing they want to deal with. And in this climate? Fugheddaboudit.

In the past some WO's have been spun off and told to go find other gainful employment, but again this is the wrong environment for that.

I think it would come down to either the merger partner's pilots allow the existing AS regional flying or the sweetness of the merger deal is enough to offset a write-off liquidation of QX. OO would have to be allowed to finish the duration of their contracts (whatever that is), or get bought out, possibly at significant expense.

9mikemike

You are aware that Horizon Air Industries is not part of Alaska Airlines right? They and McGee Air Services inc happen to be owned by the Alaska Air Group along with a couple other companies. Just as the Alaska/Jet America merger and the Alaska/Virgin America merger had nothing to do with Horizon Air, neither would any other merger.....

rickair7777

That's not correct in this case. I'm guessing Jet America and VX did not have scope limits on regional flying. I know VX didn't, they didn't even have a contract yet.

Many other majors have scope language which limits or prohibits ANY flying not performed by mainline. IIRC two obvious potential merger partners fall into that last category (WN and B6). HA has some regional feed, not sure what their scope is.

A merger partner's scope language (and everything else in the CBA) should be written to be binding on a successor company, which includes a new merged entity. So the deal could not be executed unless:

a) The other pilots agree to waive scope to the degree necessary to accommodate existing outsourced FFD.
b) OR the existing FFD is adjusted to comply with scope (that means FFD is eliminated in the case of WN/B6).

The new company would have to comply with the most restrictive limitations of each pilot group's contract, unless the pilots agree otherwise. Obviously there will eventually be an SLI and joint contract tailored to the new entity but that's not typically negotiated until after the merger is executed. Things like scope would have to be complied with on day one.

Historical example... the first time OO tried to buy EV, the EV pilots stuck to their guns on their contract, which OO found incompatible with their business plans, so the deal was called off.

NewGuy01

OTZ/MEA hanging out together in Gig harbor. The topic of discussion after forgetting to pull the fenders and nearly running over some kayakers is wondering why none of their FOs want to have an "adult beverage" after a busy day of SE flying on the Juneau overnight.

https://youtu.be/wwbNi79rLaQ

OTZeagle1

Right🙄... Next time you see me, dress me down in public, lets see how that goes, speak up, you are a coward!