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Old 07-31-2022 | 11:20 AM
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I put the betting odds squarely at

Independent 3/1
UAL 3/1
HA 3/1
Anything else 20/1

“Alaska Hawaiian Pacific” has been trending…BM is selling merch 🤔😂. It also comes blessed by OneWorld. From last go around, this was really a clean efficient airline come 2027… 100EJets, 400 NG/MAX, 35 787.
I have heard nothing on odds of UAL DOJ approval… I take that just slightly negative.
I am on vacation, but I heard things got really weird at the Angle when B6/NK was announced.
I am confident November 2022 will be a HUGE month in Alaska Airlines’s history… mark that down!
Contract is done…Our scope, pretty cool scheduling package, 315 hour… schmucking up to the big 4 as they hit. Voting in September.

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Old 07-31-2022 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
I put the betting odds squarely at

Independent 3/1
UAL 3/1
HA 3/1
Anything else 20/1

“Alaska Hawaiian Pacific” has been trending…BM is selling merch 🤔😂. It also comes blessed by OneWorld. From last go around, this was really a clean efficient airline come 2027… 100EJets, 400 NG/MAX, 35 787.
I have heard nothing on odds of UAL DOJ approval… I take that just slightly negative.
I am on vacation, but I heard things got really weird at the Angle when B6/NK was announced.
I am confident November 2022 will be a HUGE month in Alaska Airlines’s history… mark that down!
Contract is done…Our scope, pretty cool scheduling package, 315 hour… schmucking up to the big 4 as they hit. Voting in September.
Whiskey much there OTZ?
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Old 07-31-2022 | 05:02 PM
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Nice try OtzThunderChicken…..315 doesn’t even keep up with inflation.

“Alaska Hawaiian Pacific Airlines” sounds legit though….Sangita hasn’t had an original thought in her head since she took the marketing job….so that checks….

I prefer Cair-Bairlines
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Old 07-31-2022 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy8784
Nice try OtzThunderChicken…..315 doesn’t even keep up with inflation.

“Alaska Hawaiian Pacific Airlines” sounds legit though….Sangita hasn’t had an original thought in her head since she took the marketing job….so that checks….

I prefer Cair-Bairlines
So vote no… I think the “Schmuck” clause will protect us, until then our hourly rate will be the highest in the industry. The range I heard we were at was between 305-315… I guess, I was just hoping for the best with 315😂. Should be out in 3-4 weeks.
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Old 07-31-2022 | 06:36 PM
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Well, if we are making odds on what Alaska will look like in November…

United: only in an Alaska pilots wet dream
Hawaiian: 500-1
anyone else: 499-1

Business as usual, to mean adding seats while decreasing airframes, at least in the near term: Almost for sure

Although I would prefer Mr. OTZ’s predictions over mine
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Old 07-31-2022 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
And yet economy of scale makes a difference. And the niche market is shrinking in relative terms.
Originally Posted by BusWhisperer
This reminds me of a movie quote, "Sure, you can run but then you'll just die tired."
I'm sure there's some crossover point in their book where it makes more sense to acquire another airline or allow themselves to be acquired; vs. keep going it alone.

Hopefully they haven't miscalculated that point, thereby running the risk of death by exhaustion down the road. Hahaha

Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
I heard things got really weird at the Angle when B6/NK was announced.
Despite BMs pronunciations to the contrary, something tells me that this B6, Spirit merger announcement is causing them some consternation.

They thought they had B6 on a line, running, and was hoping to eventually reel them in, on their terms, had B6 failed in their power move for Spirit.

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Old 07-31-2022 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by flysnoopy76
Well, if we are making odds on what Alaska will look like in November…

United: only in an Alaska pilots wet dream
Hawaiian: 500-1
anyone else: 499-1

Business as usual, to mean adding seats while decreasing airframes, at least in the near term: Almost for sure

Although I would prefer Mr. OTZ’s predictions over mine
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I’m sure we’d all love to be acquired by UA. The likelihood we stay independent is overwhelming if I’m being honest. I also have to be honest and say it’s only a matter of time before AS is swallowed by someone and the clock is ticking. I just don’t think it’s struck 12 yet.
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Old 07-31-2022 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Avgeek7248
I’m sure we’d all love to be acquired by UA. The likelihood we stay independent is overwhelming if I’m being honest. I also have to be honest and say it’s only a matter of time before AS is swallowed by someone and the clock is ticking. I just don’t think it’s struck 12 yet.
How soon ?
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Old 07-31-2022 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
I put the betting odds squarely at

Independent 3/1
UAL 3/1
HA 3/1
Anything else 20/1

“Alaska Hawaiian Pacific” has been trending…BM is selling merch 🤔😂. It also comes blessed by OneWorld. From last go around, this was really a clean efficient airline come 2027… 100EJets, 400 NG/MAX, 35 787.
I have heard nothing on odds of UAL DOJ approval… I take that just slightly negative.
I am on vacation, but I heard things got really weird at the Angle when B6/NK was announced.
I am confident November 2022 will be a HUGE month in Alaska Airlines’s history… mark that down!
Contract is done…Our scope, pretty cool scheduling package, 315 hour… schmucking up to the big 4 as they hit. Voting in September.
As much as I hope this is the case, it sounds a lot more like management trying to get us to play along for the summer travel season until the economy goes into a tailspin.
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Old 07-31-2022 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by WNeast
How soon ?
Very soon. You wouldn't believe how soon it is, and quite frankly it's the soonest thing that's ever happened, folks. The soonness would blow your mind if you saw it, I mean people are saying it really will happen with tremendous soonness and we love when things happen soon, don't we folks? We just love to see things happen with this kind of soon. And you really wouldn't believe how many people have thanked me - they say, echelon, they say, I had no idea how soon it was going to happen until you showed me. And that's why I do it, really, because only I can do that and I love to do it, I really do.
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