Alaska General Discussion
01-25-2026 | 04:37 PM
#2031
Mmmm wine
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HAL was in financial distress, that is an undeniable fact. It's why AS bought it so cheap. I'll say it again for those in the cheap seats. AS paid DOUBLE for VX when it was all said and done.
01-25-2026 | 04:41 PM
#2032
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01-25-2026 | 05:06 PM
#2033
On Reserve
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As far as I understand how ALPA merger stuff goes, the financial state of HA is irrelevant to SLI considerations.
01-25-2026 | 05:45 PM
#2034
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There’s no way to prove what would’ve happened to HA if they weren’t bought. That’s why that argument is dismissed by arbitrators. Especially in HAs state of no bankruptcy filings or concessionary contracts in the months leading to acquisition.
01-25-2026 | 05:55 PM
#2035
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How's that JCBA coming along?
01-25-2026 | 06:14 PM
#2036
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You would be correct. The financial state of HAL isn’t worth mentioning. Since it will not be a part of the SLI process, in any way shape or form. I apologize that anyone on the AS side mentioned it. There are much more important things to consider.
01-25-2026 | 06:17 PM
#2037
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Its not one of the considerations and has not been used in a SLI list creation since it became the new policy since 2006. Only 3 things were used: Longevity, Status and Category (WB vs NB, CA vs FO), and Career Expectations (fences for WB planes). The fences were 5 years for the airlines that both had WB planes and the last time there was an ALPA SLI where only 1 airline had WB planes the fences were 20 years. I expect to see 10 year fences on this one. Mind you that's 10 year from the SLI date, not from the merger date.
How's that JCBA coming along?
How's that JCBA coming along?
01-25-2026 | 06:49 PM
#2038
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From: Cessna 205
It’s very convenient to call us a crappy ACMI. In reality the 330F pilots are the highest paid cargo pilots in the industry. Also the only widebody freight pilots to fly under part 117 (i think sun country does 117 for amazon). Definitely a superior W2 and QOL when compared to legacy AS flying.
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