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12-10-2025 | 12:18 PM
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This idea of a senior CA in SEA who is a father/month to a junior SEA CA son/daughter and trading vacations around is just one of those self-concocted fears of someone benefiting from vacation trading. As you said, you could probably count them on one hand. And of those rare few, how many actually doing it?
12-10-2025 | 03:28 PM
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Objectively better is also an opinion. While I don’t fly on vacation, plenty of guys do, and it’s nice to have the option.
What is this nepotism? There’s some father/mother/uncle and son/daughter combos here but it’s not the norm.
We also have vacation ANY in PBS. If you choose this option, allows the system to move your vacation days as necessary to meet your preferences. Say I have vacation Aug 25-31 but school already starts then. I can vacation ANY option, and then bid to fly over those days, and set up a PBS bid where I get 7-10+ days off in the middle of August. It’ll be where the vacation any days fall.
What is this nepotism? There’s some father/mother/uncle and son/daughter combos here but it’s not the norm.
We also have vacation ANY in PBS. If you choose this option, allows the system to move your vacation days as necessary to meet your preferences. Say I have vacation Aug 25-31 but school already starts then. I can vacation ANY option, and then bid to fly over those days, and set up a PBS bid where I get 7-10+ days off in the middle of August. It’ll be where the vacation any days fall.
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12-10-2025 | 03:31 PM
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I was leaving on a long-term military deployment shortly after new years. I wanted to spend xmas with my two year old child before I left. The young guy who picked up my xmas four day had four little kids and he said he needed the money to pay for his family holiday (yes SLC base). While were both regional FO's, I was going to be on tax-free combat pay for one year+ so money wasn't an issue.
Seemed like a win/win. How is that anyone else's business? Especially since this is the opposite of the vacay situation... I didn't specifically bid for a xmas trip in hopes of having to pay to get rid of it
And it was more than $100, even way back then.
Seemed like a win/win. How is that anyone else's business? Especially since this is the opposite of the vacay situation... I didn't specifically bid for a xmas trip in hopes of having to pay to get rid of it
And it was more than $100, even way back then.
12-10-2025 | 03:39 PM
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12-10-2025 | 04:19 PM
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12-10-2025 | 09:31 PM
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I'm sure almost anything and everything happens occasionally, but I'm thinking it's pretty rare. Not something I ever hear about in the real world. I think there are bigger problems to worry about.
12-10-2025 | 09:38 PM
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That's probably how this whole urban legend started, people see FA's doing it. Then they see a pilot father/son who got to do a trip together and *assume* that dad is gifting 25 y/o new hire FO primo holiday vacay. Completely forgetting that dad can't trade with an FO. Unless he wants to downgrade first.
12-11-2025 | 12:24 AM
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In addition to asking PBS to shift our vacation, we can just do it ourselves. I bid for vacation to match my wife's, but I was awarded one week off. No problem, I just gave away the trips on the week I wanted off, and picked up on my vacation week instead. Same pay, more family time.
12-12-2025 | 08:23 AM
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12-12-2025 | 09:10 AM
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Like I said, I don't think it's an issue at all, so not worth wasting any resources that could be spent on other, actual issues.
I mean how are you going to solve it? Can't trade with family? Can't trade with people who's primary residence is within 1 mile of yours, since you might be friends? Need to check a box on every trade certifying that you don't know the guy from Adam, and have no relationship with him?
The problem is that it's a total non-starter to use "motive" as a basis for trading policy. Whatever scheme you come up with has to apply equally to everybody, and I suspect the unintended consequences would be worse than the problem supposedly being solved.
I mean how are you going to solve it? Can't trade with family? Can't trade with people who's primary residence is within 1 mile of yours, since you might be friends? Need to check a box on every trade certifying that you don't know the guy from Adam, and have no relationship with him?
The problem is that it's a total non-starter to use "motive" as a basis for trading policy. Whatever scheme you come up with has to apply equally to everybody, and I suspect the unintended consequences would be worse than the problem supposedly being solved.
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