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Old 12-09-2025 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by MrBogardi
Can you not cancel your vacation? Just cancel 6 days or whatever and then let the junior people rebid for it

What do you mean “cancel?”

You can either trade pilot-to-pilot, or trade with opentime days (in which case your days are dumped into opentime vacation and anyone can take it), or you can sell your vacation to the company when the chance is offered contractually. In that case I don’t think your vac is dumped into opentime, the days are just sold back to the company.
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Old 12-09-2025 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
After that, it should be a free for all.

I don’t agree I would much prefer UAL’s system with DAL green slip (premium) rules

Back to the SAN base now sorry for the drift 🤣
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Old 12-09-2025 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
What do you mean “cancel?”

You can either trade pilot-to-pilot, or trade with opentime days (in which case your days are dumped into opentime vacation and anyone can take it), or you can sell your vacation to the company when the chance is offered contractually. In that case I don’t think your vac is dumped into opentime, the days are just sold back to the company.
You cancel it and then other pilots can pick it up except vacation during summer and Christmas is rebid on. No changing vacation after the 1st of the month prior.
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Old 12-09-2025 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
In theory, it's a problem and I find it distasteful but in reality how do you fix it?

Plus the senior guy probably was just going to take it all in Jul and Dec anyway, he only traded because it was his kid... not like he was going to do that for you under any circumstances.

Only fix is probably ban all trading. Otherwise trading that benefits *you* is OK, but when it benefits somebody else it's nepotism, insider trading, etc. Where do you draw the line?
The solution is to dump Alaska vacation language in favor of Hawaiian language. It's one of the sections that is objectively light-years ahead, while not really costing the company much more money.
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Old 12-09-2025 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MrBogardi
You cancel it and then other pilots can pick it up except vacation during summer and Christmas is rebid on. No changing vacation after the 1st of the month prior.
There is no cancel provision here. You have vacation days and if you don’t want it in a certain month, you trade it away for another month.
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Old 12-09-2025 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by WarmSandDreams
The solution is to dump Alaska vacation language in favor of Hawaiian language. It's one of the sections that is objectively light-years ahead, while not really costing the company much more money.
Like nearly everything, that is entirely subjective.
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Old 12-09-2025 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Like nearly everything, that is entirely subjective.
What are the benefits of the Alaska system? Besides being able to get summer vacation because of your senior friend.
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Old 12-09-2025 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MrBogardi
What are the benefits of the Alaska system? Besides being able to get summer vacation because of your senior friend.
The ability to trade P2P and from just regular vacation opentime. The ability to split vacation in unlimited blocks (as long as it’s 2 consecutive days minimum).
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Old 12-09-2025 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
The ability to trade P2P and from just regular vacation opentime. The ability to split vacation in unlimited blocks (as long as it’s 2 consecutive days minimum).
Hawaiian you can have single days of vacation. Only requirement is two days in between vacation days. People used to bid one on one off and get a whole month off that way
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Old 12-09-2025 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MrBogardi
What are the benefits of the Alaska system? Besides being able to get summer vacation because of your senior friend.
Eh we gave up quite a bit here on CBA 2022.
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