SAN Base opening, finally…
12-03-2025 | 05:29 PM
#221
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When I was first hired I remember hearing about downgrades, and maybe it was some PTSD from the regionals, but I remember being shocked to hear people talking about it like it was not the worst thing in the world. It took being a senior-ish FO and experiencing senior-ish FO pay at a major to understand what they were talking about. I mean, I couldn't pay cash for a Maserati, but life was not bad.
12-03-2025 | 05:36 PM
#223
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12-03-2025 | 05:39 PM
#224
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Which 40 captains? Is that the math of SAN - 20% SFO/LAX?
If there's domicile churn and bleeding edge junior CA's get displaced because there are people senior to them who take the opportunity, no I'm not concerned. BTDT, didn't ratchet my lifestyle up when I knew darn well I was in a likely temporary tax bracket.
Also we're literally talking about people being displaced from the top 5% of household income down to the top 10%. That's if wifey doesn't work.
But fundamentally, if they're shrinking the company by net 40 CA's that was going to happen anyway, not the fault of SAN.
If there's domicile churn and bleeding edge junior CA's get displaced because there are people senior to them who take the opportunity, no I'm not concerned. BTDT, didn't ratchet my lifestyle up when I knew darn well I was in a likely temporary tax bracket.
Also we're literally talking about people being displaced from the top 5% of household income down to the top 10%. That's if wifey doesn't work.
But fundamentally, if they're shrinking the company by net 40 CA's that was going to happen anyway, not the fault of SAN.
Yes I did. Based on what was said in the email and what pilots bid for on our last bid it seems like there will be at least 40 downgrades. Since 35 alone senior to the most junior SEA CA, bid for SEA CA but could not hold it on the last bid. There were quite a few who bid for LAX and SFO who could not hold those bases either who were much senior to the bottom 20 in SFO and the bottom 20 in SEA. There were at least 20 for LAX but I didn't do the math last time with a reduction bid in mind. So I didn't pay attention to all of the bids. LAX has a relatively senior group of CA at the bottom. These pilots will displace pilots at other bases if they do not go to SAN or stay in LAX.
I wouldn't count on it lol
12-03-2025 | 05:49 PM
#226
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From: The Jet
Sorry you experienced that. Life is too short to fly bitter, even with uncertainties ahead. Even though I am nervous about the future of SFO, I know we can't control it. Might as well try to relax and enjoy the moment. Some people love making this job harder than it has to be....
12-03-2025 | 05:50 PM
#227
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12-03-2025 | 05:59 PM
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