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12-10-2025 | 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBogardi

Trading vacation is wild. Hawaiian way is drop it and someone else can pick it up. Unless it’s summer/christmas then it gets bid on again.

Do Alaska pilots sell their vacation to each other? $500 and I’ll trade you my 4th of July vacation.

Drop it, in exchange for what? There is a mechanism for opentime vacation pickup right?

And how does unbid vacation work? You have some type of opentime vacation pot right?

12-10-2025 | 08:03 AM

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Drop it, in exchange for what? There is a mechanism for opentime vacation pickup right?

And how does unbid vacation work? You have some type of opentime vacation pot right?

If you’re going to argue that our vacation system is better than theirs you might want to learn how theirs works first.

12-10-2025 | 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ShyGuy

Drop it, in exchange for what? There is a mechanism for opentime vacation pickup right?

And how does unbid vacation work? You have some type of opentime vacation pot right?

There’s a document online that shows what days have open vacation time. There’s an online form to submit for vacation. There’s a deadline to bid for ther vacation if you are requesting vacation for the next bid month. After that deadline you can bid for pop up vacation that will remove your assigned trip and use vacation. I’m a little vague on the pop up vacation as I’ve never utilized it before.

our regular vacation bidding occurs in October and November. Must be in 7 day minimum periods. We can have multiple different blocks of 7 days in a vacation bid. Primary bidding is in october. Secondary bidding is in November and is used to bid for other vacation days if your primary bid was not awarded or if you just want to bid for more vacation.

12-10-2025 | 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmSandDreams

I agree with you that most things are subjective. That being said, we bid our vacation at the start of the year and have a lot of flexibility in how we use it from there on out. Cancel it, move it(without having to rely on another pilot that wants your days off who also has the vacation you want, or, you know, nepotism). Get it paid out if you want(other than the one mandatory week you have to take each year). Drop trips with it.

It is objectively (not subjectively) better.

Objectively better is also an opinion. While I don’t fly on vacation, plenty of guys do, and it’s nice to have the option.

What is this nepotism? There’s some father/mother/uncle and son/daughter combos here but it’s not the norm.

We also have vacation ANY in PBS. If you choose this option, allows the system to move your vacation days as necessary to meet your preferences. Say I have vacation Aug 25-31 but school already starts then. I can vacation ANY option, and then bid to fly over those days, and set up a PBS bid where I get 7-10+ days off in the middle of August. It’ll be where the vacation any days fall.

12-10-2025 | 08:29 AM

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If you’re going to argue that our vacation system is better than theirs you might want to learn how theirs works first.

The more they talk, the worse it’s getting

12-10-2025 | 08:42 AM

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what? Do they speak English in what?

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12-10-2025 | 09:02 AM

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What is this nepotism? There’s some father/mother/uncle and son/daughter combos here but it’s not the norm.

Yes, and not only that you have to be same base and same seat. That math is pretty hard, bet you could count them on the fingers of one hand. I know several people with kids at the company, but they're all very recent hires, not upgrading any time soon.

12-10-2025 | 09:27 AM

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it’s much more prevalent on the HA flight attendant side to bid trips and then trade them to your junior family member as they are qualified on all aircraft. There’s a few husband and wife pilots on the same aircraft and seat that could do this as well.