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Old 12-15-2025 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Yakattack
Downgrades incoming. Trust me bro.
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Old 12-15-2025 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by flyprdu
Whatever they want? Scalp all the summer vacay and put it up for bids!
They could run a side hustle of grabbing all of the July and seeing what they can make off it. Arctic Eagles only please.

Reminds me of the commuter hotel debacle.

If they do that, they lose summer vacation.


Are we just be complaining to complain? Guys keep their summer vacations, mostly. *Some* might be willing to trade. I’ve reached out to those who have more than 18 days in July. Eg, a guy who had July 1-23. And see if he might part with a few days since he’ll be off the entire month. Only a few ever respond yes. It’s still much more rare than it is common. a SEA CA husband and a SEA Capt wife? You could probably count on one hand how many of those couples exist in the same base and seat doing favoritism to each other.
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Old 12-15-2025 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
If they do that, they lose summer vacation.


Are we just be complaining to complain? Guys keep their summer vacations, mostly. *Some* might be willing to trade. I’ve reached out to those who have more than 18 days in July. Eg, a guy who had July 1-23. And see if he might part with a few days since he’ll be off the entire month. Only a few ever respond yes. It’s still much more rare than it is common. a SEA CA husband and a SEA Capt wife? You could probably count on one hand how many of those couples exist in the same base and seat doing favoritism to each other.

I’m gunna stop wearing my seatbelt when I drive my car. I can count on one hand how many times I’ve almost been in a wreck. Never been in one either. Seems unnecessary to be wearing a seatbelt. Why does the government care what i do?
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Old 12-15-2025 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by FL410
Not what I was expecting.
Not what anyone was expecting...
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Old 12-15-2025 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FL410
Not what I was expecting.
so with the 40 vacancies and this 50 this gets us to the 90 new hires in Q1

class of 20 started 12/8 so 130 new hires between August to Q1 90 left to filled for anybody waiting on a class date
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Old 12-15-2025 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Yakattack
Downgrades incoming. Trust me bro.
certainly possible if a bunch of senior FOs senior to 24xx Capt upgrade and they don’t wanna commute if all the 23xx and more senior they certainly could be displaced with no CA left junior to them

no ones knows how it’ll play out we will find out in the new year

in the JCBA I would not mind some first dibs processions for existing captains in a displacembt bid, they took the risk and QOL hit to upgrade early
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Old 12-15-2025 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer
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Originally Posted by Yakattack
Downgrades incoming. Trust me bro.
Our Union podcast on the subject of SAN starts with a reassurance that if downgraded a pilots SLI outcome won’t change. Since the seniority lists for SLI have already been exchanged. Hopefully the senior FOs bidding for CA because they are under the mistaken and foolish consideration that they can improve their SLI outcome will listen to the podcast.

It’s nice our Union are thinking of all the disruption that this bid will cause. Instead of the callus and completely devoid of empathy banter on APC.

June of 2025 we will have more captains system wide than in June of 2026. This doesn’t bode well for the future or our prospects going forward. If one uses their big brain and considers retirements.

But hey you guys can finally live out your flamboyant Top Gun beach volleyball fantasy. Congrats.
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Old 12-15-2025 | 05:43 PM
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SLI’s and “stove piping” aren’t based on what you currently hold but what your seniority could hold and positions available. This career is about choices. Hopefully a 121 pilot at this point understands this. If the #1 pilot at HAL was on the 717 it’s not like they would be scrambling to bid the 330/787 to protect their seniority. Bid what you want, want what you bid.
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Old 12-15-2025 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DuckLips
SLI’s and “stove piping” aren’t based on what you currently hold but what your seniority could hold and positions available. This career is about choices. Hopefully a 121 pilot at this point understands this. Bid what you want, want what you bid.
I hoped that 121 pilots would understand that a 787 base opened in SEA would be flown by HAL pilots.

But here we are…
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Old 12-15-2025 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
Our Union podcast on the subject of SAN starts with a reassurance that if downgraded a pilots SLI outcome won’t change. Since the seniority lists for SLI have already been exchanged. Hopefully the senior FOs bidding for CA because they are under the mistaken and foolish consideration that they can improve their SLI outcome will listen to the podcast.

It’s nice our Union are thinking of all the disruption that this bid will cause. Instead of the callus and completely devoid of empathy banter on APC.

June of 2025 we will have more captains system wide than in June of 2026. This doesn’t bode well for the future or our prospects going forward. If one uses their big brain and considers retirements.

But hey you guys can finally live out your flamboyant Top Gun beach volleyball fantasy. Congrats.
2025-11 1623 CAs TOTAL pilots 3375
2026- 03 CA 1619 total pilots 3357
2026-05 1622 CAs total 3355
2026-06 1639 CA total 3462

from 2026-3 to 2026-6 sea has grown from 747 captains to 770 CAs
And maybe max 10s to come in 27 for Q3 and Q4 hiring/ upgrades my glass is half full
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