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PineappleXpres 03-31-2026 12:29 AM
Originally Posted by TTail (Post 4018372)
It's not a thing... But I'm guessing what he was talking about was the earliest date that either Amazon or Alaska could cancel the contract. I think it was around the end of this summer. There was talk that it was getting pushed back until after the holidays to allow stability for Amazon in exchange for a better deal with Alaska.
At least AZ is paying for the gas. Of course our finances have changed over all due to gas in Chester and Pualani

rickair7777 03-31-2026 06:43 AM
Rumor from plausible source (still just a rumor though)... the company is trying to get AZ to allow them to use 330F empty legs for company-branded freight, as a means of making it profitable. Would also need an additional 10+ planes to make it worthwhile.

MrBogardi 04-18-2026 10:29 AM
Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4018450)
Rumor from plausible source (still just a rumor though)... the company is trying to get AZ to allow them to use 330F empty legs for company-branded freight, as a means of making it profitable. Would also need an additional 10+ planes to make it worthwhile.
That’s like asking McDonalds if you can cook burgers on their grill when they’re not using it. Doesn’t seem plausible to intermix non amazon cargo into that operation.

rickair7777 04-18-2026 11:16 AM
Originally Posted by MrBogardi (Post 4024940)
That’s like asking McDonalds if you can cook burgers on their grill when they’re not using it. Doesn’t seem plausible to intermix non amazon cargo into that operation.
That was my thought, but maybe on empty legs. How often does that happen?

MrBogardi 04-18-2026 11:22 AM
Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4024953)
That was my thought, but maybe on empty legs. How often does that happen?
Not very often. The infrastructure isn’t suited for external cargo. Can’t imagine Amazon wanting to disrupt their distribution centers for one off cargo shipments. Especially only on empty flights that are irregular and unpredictable.

dexx 04-19-2026 06:02 PM
Originally Posted by MrBogardi (Post 4024954)
Not very often. The infrastructure isn’t suited for external cargo. Can’t imagine Amazon wanting to disrupt their distribution centers for one off cargo shipments. Especially only on empty flights that are irregular and unpredictable.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/amazo...110000823.html

PineappleXpres 04-19-2026 06:20 PM
Originally Posted by dexx (Post 4025329)
it says 2024.

MrBogardi 04-19-2026 07:00 PM
Originally Posted by dexx (Post 4025329)
This is different than what was originally said… Alaska freight on empty legs. This implies Amazon runs everything. Maybe Amazon could give AAG a container or two on some routes. We would need more information than an old freight waves article. Is there a website where you can buy this excess capacity? Did Amazon implement this plan? Lots of things are said and even make the news.. fewer things happen.

nick89 04-19-2026 07:10 PM
Honestly, its not that hard to put non amazon cargo with amazon cargo.



https://www.amazonaircargo.com/

rickair7777 04-19-2026 07:51 PM
Originally Posted by PineappleXpres (Post 4025337)
it says 2024.
I think his point was that AZ is on record as being flexible.


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