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Mudhen200 03-25-2026 10:18 AM

The channel approaches and the old “12 mile rule” on 250 below 10000 (it was in our FOM in the distant past) are a distant second to old-school Interisland ground ops as far as making 20 minute turns work on a regular basis. That is a distant and bygone world!

When Line Service was cut in the name of being “industry standard to save money”, there were many who saw that as a harbinger of a future sale. They were right![/QUOTE]


I miss the bygone world that you and I got to enjoy. A time when our respective companies let pilots be pilots. We all had good work ethic, a gitter done attitude and going to work each day was a lot of fun. We used to know how to actually fly in a 200. PSG to WRG comes to mind. Something less than 15 minutes on the blocks. Southbound down Dry Straight, around 1,500 feet, 300ish plus knots, VFR while watching some of God's best work go by the front window. Good times were had by all and I'm grateful that I got to experience it before the world and the industry changed.

DenainaPilot 03-25-2026 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by Jetlikespeed (Post 4016148)
q can’t fit much cargo pit could barley fit a full boat worth of bags during non ski season, during ski season we were stuffing bags in the cabin to fit all the skis, great for quick turns and frequency but won’t be able to move any cargo, can barley fit 76 people’s worth of bags.

over head bins are too small so basically anything that’s not a small suit case or back back has to go in the pit
flew the Q for 5 years that’s why the Q base in ANC failed could not fit all the pax checked bags in Alaska and 0 cargo can be shipped on them. No belly stowage small Pit by the tail

I don’t think it would do well with interisland due to my assuming we also make money on shipping cargo between the islands

The E175s have a similar problem. They bump bags all the time and the overhead bin room gets pretty tight.

WindWalker999 03-26-2026 12:17 AM


Originally Posted by Mudhen200 (Post 4016665)
I miss the bygone world that you and I got to enjoy. A time when our respective companies let pilots be pilots. We all had good work ethic, a gitter done attitude and going to work each day was a lot of fun. We used to know how to actually fly in a 200. PSG to WRG comes to mind. Something less than 15 minutes on the blocks. Southbound down Dry Straight, around 1,500 feet, 300ish plus knots, VFR while watching some of God's best work go by the front window. Good times were had by all and I'm grateful that I got to experience it before the world and the industry changed.

Amen brother.

GoodJet 03-26-2026 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by WindWalker999 (Post 4016854)
Amen brother.


If I’m not mistaken this only went away in SE AK because of the actions of a few individuals who kept setting the GPWS off, right before retirement. Per the usual we only did this to ourselves…

WindWalker999 03-26-2026 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by GoodJet (Post 4016986)
If I’m not mistaken this only went away in SE AK because of the actions of a few individuals who kept setting the GPWS off, right before retirement. Per the usual we only did this to ourselves…

We had a few of our own jacka$$es that did similar things…. Apparently when the GPWS sings “CAUTION TERRAIN” while the TCAS simultaneously screams “DESCEND, DESCEND NOW” because the scenic cliff and its associated tour helicopter are competing for your windshield view, it may not end well.

WYSIWYG 03-30-2026 04:49 PM

Rumor has it Freighter cancelations letter might get extended by 6 months.

GoodJet 03-30-2026 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by WYSIWYG (Post 4018303)
Rumor has it Freighter cancelations letter might get extended by 6 months.


Im kind of afraid to ask but…

What is the freighter cancellations letter?

Flika 03-30-2026 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by GoodJet (Post 4018307)
Im kind of afraid to ask but…

What is the freighter cancellations letter?

Probably something made up. There an amazon contract rumor out there for whatever you want to believe. Just pick your favorite or even make up your own and share to your next 10 FOs. Bonus points if your own rumor makes it back to you.

WindWalker999 03-30-2026 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by Flika (Post 4018326)
Probably something made up. There an amazon contract rumor out there for whatever you want to believe. Just pick your favorite or even make up your own and share to your next 10 FOs. Bonus points if your own rumor makes it back to you.

Triple bonus if it makes it back to you from an offline jumpseater.

TTail 03-31-2026 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by GoodJet (Post 4018307)
Im kind of afraid to ask but…

What is the freighter cancellations letter?

It's not a thing... But I'm guessing what he was talking about was the earliest date that either Amazon or Alaska could cancel the contract. I think it was around the end of this summer. There was talk that it was getting pushed back until after the holidays to allow stability for Amazon in exchange for a better deal with Alaska.


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