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Old 11-26-2018 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
For some reason you ex-VXers just don't want to admit the Airbus was doomed the day the merger went down. Better study up on your Boeing stuff.
If there is growth then we don't care. Otherwise everybody loses.
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Old 11-26-2018 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by WutFace
Only at Alaska Airlines will you find pilots dumb enough to applaud the removal of airplanes from the fleet.
He actually doesn’t work there. Just for reference.
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Old 11-27-2018 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by WutFace
Only at Alaska Airlines will you find pilots dumb enough to applaud the removal of airplanes from the fleet.
What you forget is Alaska had MORE 737s on order and option than VX had Buses at the time of the merger. That would mean a net GAIN. But, public math obviously isn't your forte.
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Old 11-27-2018 | 06:34 AM
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Here’s how this will go

Hook up with WN - get rid of airbuses
Merge with JB - keep the airbuses
No merger - order more RJs
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Old 11-27-2018 | 07:27 AM
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They will do whatever is cheaper
They will do whatever is cheaper
Repeat after me...
They will do whatever is cheaper

Packrat doesn’t work here. I just ignore the old Richard that desires more attention than herpe$ on valentines.

Unity, 2020 people.
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Old 11-27-2018 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
What you forget is Alaska had MORE 737s on order and option than VX had Buses at the time of the merger. That would mean a net GAIN. But, public math obviously isn't your forte.
I don't even know what "public math" is? Is that doing math in public?
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Old 11-28-2018 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
What you forget is Alaska had MORE 737s on order and option than VX had Buses at the time of the merger. That would mean a net GAIN. But, public math obviously isn't your forte.
So there were 65 ish 320/319s at the time of purchase. Right now there are something like 39 outstanding 737s, they have received a few 73s since the purchase. Did they cancel options or orders?
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Old 12-01-2018 | 09:34 AM
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If you’re gonna include options,Let’s talk about the 30neos VX has options for. Which can be converted to 321s.

Public math is hard ......
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Old 12-02-2018 | 07:17 AM
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I'll bet that the majority of the bus fleet will go away as the individual leases expire. I thought that this bus fleet were new airplanes and that we might actually keep them. After talking to some of the flight ops 2nd floor brains, I found out that the majority of the bus fleet is an old cobbled together mess of used airplanes from around the world that doesn't even have cockpit standardization. That being said, I would wager that the 321 NEO may stick around for a while. If nothing else, it can put pressure on Boeing to give us the local rate. I could also easily see a deal being made with another airline. They take our bus orders, we take their Boeing orders.

So what's up with the NEO engine? Is it still coming off the wing every 500 cycles? What's a CFM good for - something like 35,000 cycles? Good gravy, how did the FAA ever certify that piece of pie?
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Old 12-02-2018 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mudhen200
I'll bet that the majority of the bus fleet will go away as the individual leases expire. I thought that this bus fleet were new airplanes and that we might actually keep them. After talking to some of the flight ops 2nd floor brains, I found out that the majority of the bus fleet is an old cobbled together mess of used airplanes from around the world that doesn't even have cockpit standardization. That being said, I would wager that the 321 NEO may stick around for a while. If nothing else, it can put pressure on Boeing to give us the local rate. I could also easily see a deal being made with another airline. They take our bus orders, we take their Boeing orders.

So what's up with the NEO engine? Is it still coming off the wing every 500 cycles? What's a CFM good for - something like 35,000 cycles? Good gravy, how did the FAA ever certify that piece of pie?
Dude what are you smoking?
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