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Old 12-04-2018, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
The main reason I try and avoid flying Alaskan, as a pax, is that they only have the 737. I do not like it at all!
Alaska pre merger had a 24% profit margin flying, surprisingly, an all 737 fleet. Do you know how many companies in the S&P500 turn a 24% profit margin. Wow, I bet those planes must have been empty, there must have been Zero brand loyalty. I am sure the entire flying public must feel exactly the same as you... How many JD powers have we won in a row?
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Old 12-04-2018, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
............and this has turned into a Boeing vs Airbus thread. Seriously?
It’s that time of year again. The annual, “the airplane I fly, is way more aerodynamic than the airplane you fly” debate. This argument has nothing to do with which airplane is right for job and is purely based on deep seated bias’ that many from both camps still have. Some folks are still struggling to progress through all 5 stages of grief. 9 out of 10 passengers couldn’t tell you what airplane they’re on and it’s probably the last thing on their mind. Far behind, cost of the ticket, are we on time, why won’t that baby be quiet, Jesus who keeps farting, why does this MFer next to me think it’s o.k. To take his shoes off and put his nasty GD socks up next to me? Both the Airbus and the Boeing are capable airplanes and I hope we get many more of both. The only real concern any of us should have is that there are more Boeing’s and Airbus’ than there are 175’s.
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Old 12-04-2018, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by coolyokeluke
The red eyes, though tiring to fly, also keep the utilization of the fleet high.
This is the crux of the redeye theory. It is and always has been about fleet utilization.
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Old 12-04-2018, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by KnockKnock
It’s that time of year again. The annual, “the airplane I fly, is way more aerodynamic than the airplane you fly” debate. This argument has nothing to do with which airplane is right for job and is purely based on deep seated bias’ that many from both camps still have. Some folks are still struggling to progress through all 5 stages of grief. 9 out of 10 passengers couldn’t tell you what airplane they’re on and it’s probably the last thing on their mind. Far behind, cost of the ticket, are we on time, why won’t that baby be quiet, Jesus who keeps farting, why does this MFer next to me think it’s o.k. To take his shoes off and put his nasty GD socks up next to me? Both the Airbus and the Boeing are capable airplanes and I hope we get many more of both. The only real concern any of us should have is that there are more Boeing’s and Airbus’ than there are 175’s.
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Old 12-04-2018, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by KnockKnock
9 out of 10 passengers couldn’t tell you what airplane they’re on and it’s probably the last thing on their mind. Far behind, cost of the ticket, are we on time...
Correct. The reason we dumped the MDs was the economies of a single airplane fleet. This is the same reason I believe the Airbus life span is limited at AS.

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The only real concern any of us should have is that there are more Boeing’s and Airbus’ than there are 175’s.
A valid concern and one the MEC needs to address. Having ridden on a Delta Ejet from SEA-FAI recently that, from a passenger standpoint, the only major difference was the fact it took slightly longer than a 737. But, two by two seating (no middle seats) pretty much makes the extra time more palatable.

That's the threat to the pilot group. Ejets are not "regional jets." Not when you can fly a full load of passengers over 4 hours gate to gate.
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Old 12-04-2018, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by WutFace
They keep their stage lengths short so people don't fatigue out.
And yet one of the biggest complaints I hear from pilots at Southwest is, "...SIX legs a day!"
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Old 12-04-2018, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Correct. The reason we dumped the MDs was the economies of a single airplane fleet. This is the same reason I believe the Airbus life span is limited at AS.
Didn’t they say that the savings was $25mil / year to operate a single fleet type? I mean... in the grand scheme of things that is not that much.

Hawaiian Airlines is about the size VA was when we bought them and they operate 5 fleet types.
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Old 12-04-2018, 12:37 PM
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I actually got the allmighty eagle to take the bait. I am now somebody. Not sure what to do with my new status.
I think I will take his advice and go VSA or find some premium pick up
 
Old 12-04-2018, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
...I still know guys who can’t let go of the 200 and the MD80. The BUS is G-O-N-E. Let go who cares, worry about PAY!
That would be the B727-200, right?
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Old 12-04-2018, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
Just wait tell February, the crying, I can already hear. I still know guys who can’t let go of the 200 and the MD80. The BUS is G-O-N-E. Let go who cares, worry about PAY!

Yup your Cockpit is enormous
Yup your extra 8 inches is awesome
Oh your extra inch, oh yeah I feel that.
Oh your bathroom, I twirl around like a ballerina.
Who cares, what does it PAY!

Airbus “follow the leader”
If it’s not Boeing “I am not going” I just don’t care, there both just NB jets but in 2020 I better be making at least $285 an hour to fly one of them!
This could very well be the only time in APC history you said something that wasn't annoying/blatantly false/chest thumping. I will savor this until you sink back into your usual self.
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