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Old 12-03-2018, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy8784 View Post
yeah well if we don't merge before/after SWA gets ETOPS approval, we'll be out of business too....

Cant run a big boy airline off credit card loyalty......despite what Angle Lake manipulates in polling.
Dude you are clueless... SWA will get their ETOPS early next year and Alaska will be fine. Angle Lake is doing quite well, Q4 will beat the street and next year will be significantly better then this year. Alaska will beat current estimates for 2019 by at least $250,000,000.00. Yeah they suck. You must be a really smart dude. Maybe you should start your own company, you seem to be a numbers guy. And yes BofA is a goldmine!

Alaska will make $550,000,000.00 in 2018

Average expectation for 2019 is $765,000,000.00
We will make $1B in 2019! Because Angle Lake is clueless and doesn’t know how to run a “big boy airline”

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Old 12-03-2018, 10:08 PM
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............and this has turned into a Boeing vs Airbus thread. Seriously?
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Old 12-03-2018, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
............and this has turned into a Boeing vs Airbus thread. Seriously?
Just wait tell February, the crying, I can already hear. I still know guys who can’t let go of the 200 and the MD80. The BUS is G-O-N-E. Let go who cares, worry about PAY!

Yup your Cockpit is enormous
Yup your extra 8 inches is awesome
Oh your extra inch, oh yeah I feel that.
Oh your bathroom, I twirl around like a ballerina.
Who cares, what does it PAY!

Airbus “follow the leader”
If it’s not Boeing “I am not going” I just don’t care, there both just NB jets but in 2020 I better be making at least $285 an hour to fly one of them!

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Old 12-04-2018, 01:25 AM
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The main reason I try and avoid flying Alaskan, as a pax, is that they only have the 737. I do not like it at all!
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Old 12-04-2018, 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer View Post
But the 900 carries more which makes them more money.

If pax cared about comfort SWA would be out of business.
You might think passengers don't care about comfort, but you'd never know. Passengers who do care about comfort don't fly on Alaska.

And if you're comparing notes with Southwest and how they utilize their 737s, you should look at the whole picture.
  • They don't fly redeyes
  • They don't fly 6 hour transcons
  • They have several hubs located in the middle of the country
They keep their stage lengths short so people don't fatigue out. AS has no concept of what people are looking for in the premium transcon market.

So unless Alaska has a St. Louis base in its future, you should stop copying off of Southwest's homework.
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Old 12-04-2018, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 View Post
Just wait tell February, the crying, I can already hear. I still know guys who can’t let go of the 200 and the MD80. The BUS is G-O-N-E. Let go who cares, worry about PAY!

Yup your Cockpit is enormous
Yup your extra 8 inches is awesome
Oh your extra inch, oh yeah I feel that.
Oh your bathroom, I twirl around like a ballerina.
Who cares, what does it PAY!

Airbus “follow the leader”
If it’s not Boeing “I am not going” I just don’t care, there both just NB jets but in 2020 I better be making at least $285 an hour to fly one of them!
So you goal is to be the lowest paid Legacy 737 pilot in 2020. Nice goal d1p 5h1t....Brad bestowed upon you your raise on Nov 1st 2017. You are not getting another one for a long time.
 
Old 12-04-2018, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by WutFace View Post
You might think passengers don't care about comfort, but you'd never know. Passengers who do care about comfort don't fly on Alaska.

And if you're comparing notes with Southwest and how they utilize their 737s, you should look at the whole picture.
  • They don't fly redeyes
  • They don't fly 6 hour transcons
  • They have several hubs located in the middle of the country
They keep their stage lengths short so people don't fatigue out. AS has no concept of what people are looking for in the premium transcon market.

So unless Alaska has a St. Louis base in its future, you should stop copying off of Southwest's homework.


Hey St. Louis. At least I could afford to live there....


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Old 12-04-2018, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Klsytakesit View Post
So you goal is to be the lowest paid Legacy 737 pilot in 2020. Nice goal d1p 5h1t....Brad bestowed upon you your raise on Nov 1st 2017. You are not getting another one for a long time.
Sure yeah you are the one always crying on this board. Mr. Doom and Gloom, your family and friends must love spending time with you. I worry you might be an idiot. I am confident you couldn’t pay my taxes from 2017 because you are aviation “handicapped”. You expected this career without any extra work, to make you rich. You want to sit on your hands, work 60 hrs a month and make a Cadillac a month. You must just think people are given things in life.

What will SWA make in 2020?
What will Delta, United, American?Surprisingly, that is the only number you will be able to achieve. You will not make $350hr on a NB when the top of the industry is the mid $280’s. You sir are a moron. This industry will move forward from this point at 3-5% a year increases over the next decade.

2020 $285
2021 $299
2022 $315
2023 $330
2024 $346
2025 $364
This is the top of our industry over the next 6 years on a NB. We will not achieve those numbers but if we are smart and push harder then we have ever pushed before we might end up very very close. Now fix section 25

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Old 12-04-2018, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by WutFace View Post
You might think passengers don't care about comfort, but you'd never know. Passengers who do care about comfort don't fly on Alaska.

And if you're comparing notes with Southwest and how they utilize their 737s, you should look at the whole picture.
  • They don't fly redeyes
  • They don't fly 6 hour transcons
  • They have several hubs located in the middle of the country
They keep their stage lengths short so people don't fatigue out. AS has no concept of what people are looking for in the premium transcon market.

So unless Alaska has a St. Louis base in its future, you should stop copying off of Southwest's homework.

They couldn't fly red eyes because their scheduling computers could not handle it.

They do fly 6 hour trans cons.... BWI to SAN to name one. RDU to SJC.... and they don't feed you anything but pretzels.

Who wants to stop and change planes? I don't.
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:30 AM
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I have worked the Baltimore to San Diego red eyes as well as many of our other trans con red eyes. The flights are pretty consistently full or close to it. Unless we're giving away the fares at a loss I'm confident that Alaska's making money on them. The red eyes, though tiring to fly, also keep the utilization of the fleet high.
Originally Posted by WutFace View Post
You might think passengers don't care about comfort, but you'd never know. Passengers who do care about comfort don't fly on Alaska.

And if you're comparing notes with Southwest and how they utilize their 737s, you should look at the whole picture.
  • They don't fly redeyes
  • They don't fly 6 hour transcons
  • They have several hubs located in the middle of the country
They keep their stage lengths short so people don't fatigue out. AS has no concept of what people are looking for in the premium transcon market.

So unless Alaska has a St. Louis base in its future, you should stop copying off of Southwest's homework.
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