Alaska Air Hiring
#3751
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Speaking of which, can any Boeing pilots give me a compelling reason to keep the L-AS pilot group imposed (NOT contractual) "5:51 rule?" Are we all on the same page that this limits productivity and contributes to the disastrous QOL on the Boeing side?
#3752
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So basically it is all of our decision.
Also please keep in mind that the word “productivity” does not mean the same thing to the company as it means to the pilot group.
Boeing All The Way!!!!
Sorry, had to add that last part to fuel the fire.
#3753
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My god are you the perfect man for that company. TCM retired, Boeing in the family, anti-union...AS did very well with that hire.
#3754
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So what is stopping us from getting rid of it?
#3755
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The quicker that the scheduling committee starts over with a blank sheet the better for all of us...
#3756
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It probably hasn't something to do with safety. By safety I mean that senior guys didn't want to do any more flying after getting back from Hawaii or Orlando so the union claimed it wasn't safe.
The quicker that the scheduling committee starts over with a blank sheet the better for all of us...
The quicker that the scheduling committee starts over with a blank sheet the better for all of us...
Also just gonna throw it out there, with PBS pilots could just bid for trips with a maximum of 5:51 block/day if that's what they want and let people who want more days off have the higher credit/day trips, negating the need for this rule that hoses everyone.
#3757
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Sounds about right, agreed 100%.
Also just gonna throw it out there, with PBS pilots could just bid for trips with a maximum of 5:51 block/day if that's what they want and let people who want more days off have the higher credit/day trips, negating the need for this rule that hoses everyone.
Also just gonna throw it out there, with PBS pilots could just bid for trips with a maximum of 5:51 block/day if that's what they want and let people who want more days off have the higher credit/day trips, negating the need for this rule that hoses everyone.
So one leg with 7hrs of duty and 5:51 of flight time you are to fatigued to continue but you are fine to slug away 4 legs through southeast with almost 11 hours of duty... genius
#3758
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Sounds about right, agreed 100%.
Also just gonna throw it out there, with PBS pilots could just bid for trips with a maximum of 5:51 block/day if that's what they want and let people who want more days off have the higher credit/day trips, negating the need for this rule that hoses everyone.
Also just gonna throw it out there, with PBS pilots could just bid for trips with a maximum of 5:51 block/day if that's what they want and let people who want more days off have the higher credit/day trips, negating the need for this rule that hoses everyone.
#3760
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They achieved more in their first contract than AS has is 85 years. That should tell you something. Like has been said before on this forum, the biggest threat to the Alaska pilots is the Alaska pilots. They just won’t stand up for themselves.
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