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Old 05-09-2018, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NotTellin View Post
Why do you guys feed this troll that created his account less than 15 days ago with the specific plan to create decent amongst the ALA5KA pilot group. If you ignore him he has no power. Don't engage the trolls. Come on we are better than this.
I have been at Alaska more then 15 years. I write how I honestly feel, how almost ever Alaska pilot I know feels right now and that makes me a **** or a troll. If I wrote realative seniority or bust, you would all say how brilliant and handsome I am. Go figure, this is really hard to figure out.
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Old 05-09-2018, 08:00 PM
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I can’t speak for the rest of exVX pilot group but most of y’all on this forum get butt hurt too easily. Instead of engaging in constructive discussion, VXers on here are quick to turn the tables and resort to name calling, a true sign of weakness and lack of intellect. Take for example OTZeagle’s comments which results in juvenile name calling by exVXers while ganging up on him/her. I don’t know this guy and obviously he’s very vocal on here but at least he/she has the balls to state his/her mind.
Its not butt hurt. Its that you are smiling with a colloquially kind tone "y'all" while telling us we are f**cked, calling us weak-minded and undesirables. You are full of sh*t and you like to stir things up where its not needed. "I'd swingline y'all", then "why u mad, bro?" F*ck you and eagle both.

Most VX'ers have accepted the fate of this brand and the merger and we'd like to think that it is all of us pilots against management, and not against each-other. Yet you "weak-minded undesirables" prove your merit with your un-needed/intentionally adversarial tone.
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Old 05-09-2018, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 View Post
I have been at Alaska more then 15 years. I write how I honestly feel, how almost ever Alaska pilot I know feels right now and that makes me a **** or a troll. If I wrote realative seniority or bust, you would all say how brilliant and handsome I am. Go figure, this is really hard to figure out.
You dont begin to represent how Alaska Pilots feel.....You championed the cause in the JCBA....Like all your kind...And after we got our tails handed to us you turn around and act like Alaska is on par with the major legacy airlines.....cant have it both ways
 
Old 05-09-2018, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Virgalask330 View Post
Yeah C.P confirmed it in company email.
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Is this for real? No hiring until 2019?
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Old 05-09-2018, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Ispeakjive View Post
Its not butt hurt. Its that you are smiling with a colloquially kind tone "y'all" while telling us we are f**cked, calling us weak-minded and undesirables. You are full of sh*t and you like to stir things up where its not needed. "I'd swingline y'all", then "why u mad, bro?" F*ck you and eagle both.

Most VX'ers have accepted the fate of this brand and the merger and we'd like to think that it is all of us pilots against management, and not against each-other. Yet you "weak-minded undesirables" prove your merit with your un-needed/intentionally adversarial tone.
Butt hurt indeed. I can’t help how you feel with what appears to be a myriad of personal complexes. Just because you feel offended because you’re not getting fed what you want to hear does not make me adversarial.
Let’s be objective. Most of y’all fit into one of these categories: No college, second career “let me just fly a jet” hobbyist, can’t get hired at the big three/SWA/FedEx or UPS for one reason or another, lack qualifications, too many skeletons, was madly in love VX, or just plain lazy. VX was a dead end stepping stone. The writing was on the wall. No one left Alaskan voluntarily to work at VX but some of y’all came here. True, Alaskan is a mega regional but definitely in a different and bigger league than where VX ever was. You are offended by Swingline? Would you be happier on a street corner? I’m not at all happy with our SLI proposal as it is a overly generous proposal for y’all. VX’s proposal is way overreaching. I suppose everyone has to look out for number one.
Remember, I’m not the one here telling others to f-off. Set your PMS emotions aside and make your case or remain an undesirable.
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Old 05-09-2018, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 2loud View Post
Butt hurt indeed. I can’t help how you feel with what appears to be a myriad of personal complexes. Just because you feel offended because you’re not getting fed what you want to hear does not make me adversarial.
Let’s be objective. Most of y’all fit into one of these categories: No college, second career “let me just fly a jet” hobbyist, can’t get hired at the big three/SWA/FedEx or UPS for one reason or another, lack qualifications, too many skeletons, was madly in love VX, or just plain lazy. VX was a dead end stepping stone. The writing was on the wall. No one left Alaskan voluntarily to work at VX but some of y’all came here. True, Alaskan is a mega regional but definitely in a different and bigger league than where VX ever was. You are offended by Swingline? Would you be happier on a street corner? I’m not at all happy with our SLI proposal as it is a overly generous proposal for y’all. VX’s proposal is way overreaching. I suppose everyone has to look out for number one.
Remember, I’m not the one here telling others to f-off. Set your PMS emotions aside and make your case or remain an undesirable.
That's 3 "y'alls" in one response. Nice work. My objection to you and your circle jerk eagle buddy is that the tone from most people has been:
1) Neither pilot group orchestrated the deal. Let's work together.
2) Neither pilot group undermined the other. Let's work together.
3) Management sucks. Let's work together.

See the theme? Now look back at the history of your posts. Your tone is divisive. It's not an occasional post from you. Divisiveness is the over-arching theme/intent behind all you write. So, yeah f*ck off.
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Old 05-10-2018, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 2loud View Post
No one left Alaskan voluntarily to work at VX but some of y’all came here. .
Actually, that's not true. I know of one who left. Ex-Skywest. Didn't care for the Union. Was unhappy with the length of the projected upgrade. Then, when an AS Captain started hitting on his AS F/A wife, he pulled chocks and went to VX for the quick upgrade.

I heard he ended up as a Check Airman over there as well. Looks like he's right back where he started from only WAY more senior after the SLI than he would have been if the VX plan is adopted.
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Old 05-10-2018, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Caveman View Post
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Is this for real? No hiring until 2019?
This is all true unless a large group retires or a bunch of FO’s leave.

2019 hiring 100-150
2020 hiring 340ish
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Old 05-10-2018, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 View Post
I have been at Alaska more then 15 years. I write how I honestly feel, how almost ever Alaska pilot I know feels right now and that makes me a **** or a troll. If I wrote realative seniority or bust, you would all say how brilliant and handsome I am. Go figure, this is really hard to figure out.
I'm not an Alaska guy, but my friend sent me here to read this guys posts.
This dude is a Russian troll. Read his posts out loud with a Russian accent and laugh your face off.
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Old 05-10-2018, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 2loud View Post
No one left Alaskan voluntarily to work at VX but some of y’all came here.
That's cute. How many DAL/AAL/UAL/UPS/FDX/SWA pilots left to go to AS? Stay in your lane.
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