Alaska Air Hiring
05-09-2018, 05:08 PM
#3182
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I am curious as to what I have written which is hard to understand, or what part makes me a retard? I have been perfectly honest and transparent. I think if any of you are honest with yourselves you would have to admit you feel the same way. I know I can’t think of one of my fellow Alaska pilots which have not voiced the exact same sentiments that I have written here. This is not radical thought or feelings by any stretch. The truth is, most people can not handle the truth.
05-09-2018, 05:14 PM
#3183
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Joined APC: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,919
Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
I am curious as to what I have written which is hard to understand, or what part makes me a retard? I have been perfectly honest and transparent. I think if any of you are honest with yourselves you would have to admit you feel the same way. I know I can’t think of one of my fellow Alaska pilots which have not voiced the exact same sentiments that I have written here. This is not radical thought or feelings by any stretch. The truth is, most people can not handle the truth.
05-09-2018, 05:35 PM
#3184
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Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 1,172
Originally Posted by Jetlife
Honesty doesn’t mean you are correct. It just means you believe the BS that you type.
05-09-2018, 05:45 PM
#3185
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Joined APC: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,919
Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
I agree. It’s how I, and many Alaska pilots feel, it’s how we perceive. I am sure through your glasses you see a totally different scene and almost the opposite color.
05-09-2018, 05:58 PM
#3186
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 669
Originally Posted by KnockKnock
What kind of credit are you looking at with 20 days off? Don’t get me wrong, I’d like to stay home all month and get paid for it but I need min 80 hrs, (kids n sh!t). That typically comes in the form of around 16 days off for me. I haven’t had to trade a trip in 6 months. Also, how does PBS see/affect your vacation? Are you able to drop flying? The way AS does vacation drops isn't ideal (thanks Kasher) but being able to split my vacation days up and shotgun them out has been a huge gain. I get vacation weeks all spring and summer long. Last question, have you noticed your QOL change/decline since AS took charge and if so, do you see that no matter the system, management will squeeze every drop out of you? So fancy updated version, meet old antiquated version, you’ve been optimized. Either way you gotta find the loopholes and make it work for you. I contend that even if you want PBS, tell management hell no until the pot gets much, much, bigger.
If you're doing it for the kids n sh!t, Pref Bid is the way to go!
That's the beauty of Pref Bid.. Whatever you desire, you can customize to your hearts content! On any given month I can bid for a stretch of days OFF that effectively is like.. you guessed it! VACATION!! I can do that 12 times a year!
Put a 8 or 10 days OFF stretch at the end of of one month together with another stretch of 8 or 10 days OFF at the beginning of the next month and you can get 16 to 20 Days OFF while still crediting high 80s in both months... I could do that 5 or 6 times a year.... And I still haven't even touched my real Vacation days....
Here's the take away.... Applied evenly to both, whether the Scheduling Rules are great or terrible, you will still have better overall flexibility and control of the schedule you will be awarded each month using Pref Bid as opposed to Line Bidding.
Last edited by All Bizniz; 05-09-2018 at 06:09 PM.
05-09-2018, 06:05 PM
#3187
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Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 396
I can’t speak for the rest of exVX pilot group but most of y’all on this forum get butt hurt too easily. Instead of engaging in constructive discussion, VXers on here are quick to turn the tables and resort to name calling, a true sign of weakness and lack of intellect. Take for example OTZeagle’s comments which results in juvenile name calling by exVXers while ganging up on him/her. I don’t know this guy and obviously he’s very vocal on here but at least he/she has the balls to state his/her mind.
05-09-2018, 06:13 PM
#3188
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Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 396
Originally Posted by All Bizniz
With 20 days OFF? 70 hours-ish.. But get this... On the other end of the spectrum...... I'll see your 80 hours and raise you 15.5 hrs (95.5 hrs) for your same 16 days off!! (that's my schedule for this month,May)
If you're doing it for the kids n sh!t, Pref Bid is the way to go!
That's the beauty of Pref Bid.. Whatever you desire, you can customize to your hearts content! On any given month I can bid for a stretch of days OFF that effectively is like.. you guessed it! VACATION!! I can do that 12 times a year!
Put a 8 or 10 days OFF stretch at the end of of one month together with another stretch of 8 or 10 days OFF at the beginning of the next month and you can get 16 to 20 Days OFF while still crediting high 80s in both months... And you still haven't even touched your real Vacation days....
Here's the take away.... Applied evenly to both, whether the Scheduling Rules are great or terrible, you will still have better overall flexibility and control of the schedule you will be awarded each month using Pref Bid as opposed to Line Bidding.
If you're doing it for the kids n sh!t, Pref Bid is the way to go!
That's the beauty of Pref Bid.. Whatever you desire, you can customize to your hearts content! On any given month I can bid for a stretch of days OFF that effectively is like.. you guessed it! VACATION!! I can do that 12 times a year!
Put a 8 or 10 days OFF stretch at the end of of one month together with another stretch of 8 or 10 days OFF at the beginning of the next month and you can get 16 to 20 Days OFF while still crediting high 80s in both months... And you still haven't even touched your real Vacation days....
Here's the take away.... Applied evenly to both, whether the Scheduling Rules are great or terrible, you will still have better overall flexibility and control of the schedule you will be awarded each month using Pref Bid as opposed to Line Bidding.
Hey bubba, until our pairings are fixed and scheduling language is gutted no PBS program will give you what y’all had under Branson. Welcome to 12-15 days off with mostly non commutable pairings, especially with more west coast flying on the bus side. Tough pill to swallow but this is reality for now and what’s to come. PBS is 💀.
05-09-2018, 06:27 PM
#3189
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 669
Originally Posted by 2loud
This horse has been beaten, butchered, processed and served to pets all throughout the world!
Hey bubba, until our pairings are fixed and scheduling language is gutted no PBS program will give you what y’all had under Branson. Welcome to 12-15 days off with mostly non commutable pairings, especially with more west coast flying on the bus side. Tough pill to swallow but this is reality for now and what’s to come. PBS is 💀.
Hey bubba, until our pairings are fixed and scheduling language is gutted no PBS program will give you what y’all had under Branson. Welcome to 12-15 days off with mostly non commutable pairings, especially with more west coast flying on the bus side. Tough pill to swallow but this is reality for now and what’s to come. PBS is 💀.
Originally Posted by All Bizniz
The airlines get improved labor efficiency but it is great for pilots too (the caveat being solid scheduling language of course). Win - Win if you ask me... You like winning, right?
05-09-2018, 06:49 PM
#3190
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Position: Upright & Breathing
Posts: 316
Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
With all do respect sir, this may be to honest for most of you to handle.
The SLI reach by the VX side has put such a sour taste in my mouth that I will vote for nothing that any of you want. In fact, if I knew terrible schedules would cause 80 percent of you to leave and seek employment elsewhere, I would gladly do all I could to secure this outcome. Do I wish any of you ill, absolutely not. I hope those 80% go to Dal, Amr, Uua, and are quickly widebody captains and you all have great careers. I hope our negotiations drag into 2023. I wish for very very few computable lines. I don’t think you even begin to understand the divide that is quickly growing at this company. It will get very very bad in my estimation. So here is to Allbiz being a 787 CA very soon at Uua!
The SLI reach by the VX side has put such a sour taste in my mouth that I will vote for nothing that any of you want. In fact, if I knew terrible schedules would cause 80 percent of you to leave and seek employment elsewhere, I would gladly do all I could to secure this outcome. Do I wish any of you ill, absolutely not. I hope those 80% go to Dal, Amr, Uua, and are quickly widebody captains and you all have great careers. I hope our negotiations drag into 2023. I wish for very very few computable lines. I don’t think you even begin to understand the divide that is quickly growing at this company. It will get very very bad in my estimation. So here is to Allbiz being a 787 CA very soon at Uua!
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